I’m not for banning GDKP, but it does quickly distribute gold from gold buyers to legit players. Lots of gold in the hands of a few don’t really inflate prices for most things. But if lots of players have quite a bit of gold, inflation kicks in pretty rapidly. The wow economy is pretty complicated. Bots are creating a ton of supply which is cratering prices, but items that can’t be botted as easily are pricey.
If GDKP didn’t exist, the incentive to buy gold diminishes. There are still reasons to buy it, but not nearly as much.
I’d rather blizzard crack down on bots than ban GDKP.
Guys, inflation is not the problem! Raw gold is not the problem! There are no pensions, bonds, or wage-earners in the game (aside from boosters/AOE farmers)! Inflation only hurts you if you already have money! The relevant conversion is between the value of the stuff you produce and the value of the stuff you need to buy, and that’s not being driven by the amount of gold in the system. If it were JUST the gold, all that would happen is the price of everything would go up and you’d sell the stuff you gathered for more before buying the stuff you need for more. The problem is the fact that a few resources that are critical for raiding are very very spawn-limited and everything else is NOT; GDKP has nothing to do with this. If there were no GDKP, the hardcore raiders would all be unhappy that they had to go farm more, but rain or shine, they still need those pots, the equilibrium real price would be in the same place, and you STILL wouldn’t be able to afford to go to Naxx.
This guy gets it. Prices high? Farm it and sell it. Should work for just about everything but lotus…which is the root of the problem.
Anyone calling for the banning of all raiding? Because bought gold is being used in all raids, not just the evil GDKPs. Might as well ban epic mounts too just to be sure.
So you clearly saw there was a GDKP thread with 200 replies. But instead of posting there you decided “You know what? I’m a unique snowflake and my opinion matters so much that I think I should start an entirely new thread to repeat the exact same thing other people have been saying There will be other threads like it. But this one is mine.”
Its a completely different topic. The other topic is an idiotic rant on how GDKPs have ruined the game. This one is based on logic and facts rather than speculative emotions. There is plenty of legitimate gold in the game by now, and legitimate players enjoy GDKP as a means to both make gold and to get items they want on their alts and even mains.
It’s amazing what looking at someones logs will tell you. Prime example of a mid-to-top tier hardcore guild going to sh`t and hitting a big naxx mechanic wall + shadowlands retail losses. This person has gone from a LC or dkp guild into believing GDKP is normal in phase 6. You probably also try to upsell and prop up some garbo tier gear in your GDKPs.
No GDKP isn’t normal with 25-150k buys. No one naturally farms that kind of gold. You dont have to express your emotions to the internet to validate your gold buying habits. Also, your server has been doing GDKPs since end of phase 4, not phase 1. You can lie to people not on your server but you shouldn’t lie to the ones that are.
GDKP, in essence, on a bottless world, without multi boxers harvesting absurd amounts of gold is legitimate. Unfortunately 18 months of botting and gold buying tells us its not. You should play retail where they let gold buyers plague the system.
From another perspective my father just started leveling a new character on classic on my server. He’s just reached 55. The gold inflation everyone is referring too is actually a boon for him. He could sell copper ore/bars and other menial herbs as he leveled for exorbitant prices and has basically been decked out like a twink with every level he progresses switching from blue weapons and then to one epic weapon then another.
I’m genuinely confused why the inflation matters too anyone at all. You can still make money it seems fairly easily while the items that tend to matter aren’t very expensive. By comparison when classic first started out it was a royal pain to level especially as a paladin.
I’m doing my first actual GDKP run on Wednesday so I suppose I should reserve end game opinions for then but atm I’m honestly only seeing ways for the casual player to profit off of the inflation.
You and I just have different philosophies when it comes to games.
I have great respect for good game design - which vanilla WoW certainly is - and I frown upon and try to avoid exploitative behaviors that corrupt and undermine the obvious intended design, usually to the detriment of the health of the game and its community.
You, on the other hand, think that’s all a bunch of nonsense. You seem to believe that there is no good or bad or right or wrong in this world. If you can get away with it, anything goes. I believe you called it positivism, which seems to mean exactly that (I had to look up the term).
So we just disagree on a fundamental level, which is probably why we always seem to be butting heads on here.
The gold being bought to afford consumables and mounts isnt even in the same ballpark as the astronomical quantities of gold being bought for GDKP loot.
I’m not profiting off of them though. I haven’t even done my first one yet. As a casual player outside of the GDKP runs though I’m struggling to find how they negatively affect me or new players starting on the server.
Mats haven’t changed in price if anything they’re cheaper. Low lvl mats are expensive so lvlers without mains can easily farm enough gold for enchants and good lvling gear. But that profit comes off the inflation not the GDKP.
does the game need more gold sinks. probably but atm the inflation hasn’t bothered me. So what I’m asking as someone who hasn’t profited off of them yet - what are the negatives and how have they affected your gameplay.
I agree. Though, I wouldn’t, personally want to run a GDKP system, if others do, I really don’t care LOL I feel the same way about others purchasing dungeon runs. They have nothing to do with me, nor what I’m doing.