GDKP in a nutshell

[Beanzey-crusader-strike]

Ok gold buyer

[Lactazia-chaos-bolt]

Its def not over just because some noob forum moderator said anything. Now we can mass report for spamming. Fake or not.

[Drinknblink-benediction]

Still here doing gdkps!

[Twint-defias-pillager]

@Ziryus-pagle

No items or profession services are being sold in LFG by GDKP’s

You 're ignoring the fact that many GDKP advertiserment included “looking for carry/hybrid/buyer” or “fresh buyer welcome”. Ok so what they buy? What budget 's using for if not buying smth?
Anyway, those advertiserments could be reported.
I’m not against GDKPs at all.

[Baddsanta-atiesh]

Ive done a lot of GDKP’s, never once did I swipe a credit card…

[Boomboy-windseeker]

Theres a reason things have primary and secondary meanings. Its okay though, rmt defenders never understand.

[Drinknblink-benediction]

@Mirasol-mannoroth

Looking for Group is only for non paid pugs. As in, no gold between any of the participants for any reason.

This is where the rule is dumb.

Gdkps are still looking for people to do group based content.

The loot setting is just an auction based system, nothing is for sale when advertising because you havent formed the GROUP yet to do the content.

[Verela-bloodsail-buccaneers]

I highly doubt anyone is gonna get banned for posting that their GDKP group is LFM in LFG It’s a group. They are looking for more. The channel is designed for that.

It seems like some people are getting banned for abusive chat though, which is likely getting wrapped up in this and people think they’re banned for advertising GDKP.

[Drinknblink-benediction]

Yeah this is why i think the rule is dumb.

LFM Naxx gdkp.

Im stating the raid is Naxx, which is group content and im looking for more people to do said content and the loot rules are gdkp.

Its literally what LFG channel is made for, it makes 0 sense to me.

[Mirasol-mannoroth (Mirasol)]

@Drinknblink-benediction

Gdkps are still looking for people to do group based content.

Is gold exchange designed to happen in that group? Yes? Then it does not belong in LFG. That is Blizzard’s opinion on it and since they make the rules, and enforce them, that is what we players have to go on.

You don’t have to agree of course. The info is only important so that people know where to post their adverts so they can avoid penalties.

@Verela-bloodsail-buccaneers

I highly doubt anyone is gonna get banned for posting that their GDKP group is LFM in LFG It’s a group. They are looking for more. The channel is designed for that.

Yes, they will get a suspension for posting a group advertisement involving gold in the wrong channel. They will also get penalized for posting on a character that can’t participate in the run, such as a new level 1, or allied race level 10.

LFG is just that - a group using the basic game systems.

Trade(services) is for advertising carries, runs for gold exchange, etc.

The policy was updated in 2022 so is still pretty new to a lot of people, esp folks who returned to play Classic.

New Services Advertisement Policy

This week the 9.2.7 update introduces the new chat channel: Trade (Services). The Trade (Services) chat channel is used for searching and advertising services like raiding, dungeons, or PvP activities, keeping the original Trade chat channel available for traditional buying and selling of items and profession services. With the separation of trade services into its own chat channel, a new policy will take place. Any boosting, carrying, or other similar services offered for gold that’s advertise…

@Verela-bloodsail-buccaneers

It seems like some people are getting banned for abusive chat though, which is likely getting wrapped up in this and people think they’re banned for advertising GDKP.

It is both. You can read the Blue post on it for clarification. There are also lots of other folks who come to CS upset they got a penalty for advertising in the wrong place, or posting too often (spam).

GDKP are they bannable?

Swanronsan - you were advertising in BOTH Trade, and LFG - back to back. Wrong channel - spam. Even that may have been overlooked until you got toxic - telling people IN TRADE CHAT that they touch minors and questioning their intellect in very uncharitable terms - again, in TRADE CHAT. I think we are done here.

@Swanronsan-azshara

I was erroneously reported en masse for the gdkp, the gdkp messages weren’t actioned, but other messages were.

You were told what you were penalized for:

• Spam (advertising in two channels at once)
• Advertising in the wrong channel
• Language that violated the chat policies

You really should actually read what the Blue posted instead of trying to argue with everyone about it. You seem to make up something then try to argue it into existence. You are right though, the language penalty was the one that tipped it over the edge, but it does not make the spam/advertising ok either.

[Drinknblink-benediction]

@Mirasol-mannoroth

LFG is just that - a group using the basic game systems.

Which is what?

[Verela-bloodsail-buccaneers]

@GDKP are they bannable?

Swanronsan - you were advertising in BOTH Trade, and LFG - back to back. Wrong channel - spam. Even that may have been overlooked . . .

Well, what the blue said here leads me to think that “wrong channel” is not a rule that is enforced very much I do think people are being banned for spamming both trade and LFG channels very frequently though. That would be obnoxious.

I would also like you to define “basic game systems”.

[Ziryus-pagle]

@Drinknblink-benediction

Yeah this is why i think the rule is dumb.

LFM Naxx gdkp.

Im stating the raid is Naxx, which is group content and im looking for more people to do said content and the loot rules are gdkp.

I ts literally what LFG channel is made for, it makes 0 sense to me.

Other than clarifying that GDKP’s were okay the GM response didn’t clarify what channel they should be posted in. All they really said was we don’t care unless you get mass reported then we’ll arbitrarily decide whether it was the right channel or not.

[Drinknblink-benediction]

Yea the ruling just makes no sense to me, i get the MVP has no power on what the rules are.

Just odd cuz the loot setting shouldnt determine where youre allowed to post looking for group members in a group activity.

[Swanronsan-azshara]

It’s so double handed to say “you were suspended for advertising in the wrong channel, but also we’d overlook that if you weren’t mean, but we wouldn’t have suspended you for being mean if you weren’t advertising in the wrong channel” Like which one is it? Is it both? Why would either or be allowed? Maybe the rules aren’t concrete enough and require too much selective enforcement?

[Ziryus-pagle]

@Mirasol-mannoroth

@Verela-bloodsail-buccaneers

Well, what the blue said here leads me to think that “wrong channel” is not a rule that is enforced very much

It is pretty minor, but when people are putting their adverts in the wrong place it tends to get reported - and if reported and it breaks the rules, the GMs can decide if they are going to penalize or not. A few times in the wrong channel one day is not going to cause much issue I would think.

People just really don’t like spam. Same reason they get up when the ads come on TV, or used to back when we had such things. Imagine the same ad every few seconds, or minutes. It would irritate most people. So they report. Just because the system technically lets you post another message, does not mean it is not considered spam if reported.

Which is why it would have been nice if the GM had been willing to flat out say GDKP’s belong on trade only or that they’re fine in LFG as well.

Especially since realistically most people use them interchangeably for everything.

[Leilleath-moon-guard]

@Swanronsan-azshara

Seeing as none of these messages were cited in my suspension e-mail

@Swanronsan-azshara

the suspension was very obviously prompted by me trying to advertise for a gdkp

If it didn’t give you a snippet then you’re only assuming it to be in relation to the advertising. They will never give you the full chat log regardless of what you were saying when. It doesn’t matter that things were days apart, it still culminated in a sanction. If a snippet is provided, it’s a small selection. It’s not going to be every nuance of what got you in trouble.

GDKPs have gold transactions involved. That puts them in the same boat as any other service. They’re not exactly like boosts or carries, but that there is gold involved as it is, that makes it a service - same as the rest. They’re all bound by the same rules.

This has been stated dozens of times over in both of the threads recently over on CS.

[Mirasol-mannoroth (Mirasol)]

@Ziryus-pagle

or that they’re fine in LFG as well.

They are not fine in LFG. That is the wrong channel. That is what the Blue post was saying.

[Ziryus-pagle]

@Mirasol-mannoroth

@Ziryus-pagle

or that they’re fine in LFG as well.

They are not fine in LFG. That is the wrong channel. That is what the Blue post was saying.

That’s not what they said anywhere in their post. All they said was post them in the right channel.

[Swanronsan-azshara]

I’m not assuming anything. You don’t go from getting flamed in /2 having people whispering you to go die and various anti-gdkp hate, to having the mass report notice in the top right, to getting dc’d and suspended. That’s not a coincidence. That’s a chain of events.