GDKP Ban Lifted

[Forkntoaster-dragonmaw]

Thanks for your boots on the ground reporting.
Very insightful, and I think it’s along the lines of what everyone suspected.

[Dorken-grobbulus]

@Outoftables-bleeding-hollow

You do if you do naxx gdkps. Which will end up being the exact same state in sod. I mean unless your into farming 6 months of gold the legal way to get 1 item out of naxx lol

Time is money, friend. Youre referencing Classic Era final phase loot, which was released more than 6 months after launch. So yea, you would have the gold to be able to afford loot… Especially if youve been playing with 39 other people who were naturally farming gold and using it to supply the raid with gold when they received a piece of loot…

[Tiyoo-area-52]

@Cibola-wild-growth

@Bullakae-crusader-strike

But I thought you needed to buy gold to get in there?

What happens if I buy a bunch of gold but my gear doesn’t drop?

I was a poor tank who had trouble affording my flasks before GDKP in classic. I never bought gold, but I did need to work to afford my raiding.

Once we had naxx on farm, my raid started offering GDKP runs. After we started I was rich enough that I could strictly raid log and afford everything I needed. We carried the “VIPs” (lol) sent to us by a group of shady Koreans on another discord who were basically running a large multiserver GDKP setup. Those VIPs were playing with obviously bought gold and spending unfarmable levels of gold on not even that great of gear. Most of them didn’t even know how to play all that well or would brag openly about how much they RMT’ed.

At that point I had enough gold that I could send it to alts and buy my gear in other GDKP runs.

So:

Bought gold → to the carries + a percentage to some shady AF GDKP korean organization running on multiple servers

Carries (with bought gold) → into the wider economy through AH, spending ridiculous amounts of gold on consumes because who cares we were all rich, also less of us out there actually farming and just letting it all be generated by bots/bad hombres

Carries’ alts (with bought gold) → to the carries in another GDKP (probably controlled by the same dudes who we coordinated our GDKP’s with lol) + probably a percentage going to some other shady AF dudes

End result:

Less engagement by players with the game world and more raid logging
Players who wouldn’t buy gold still handling bought gold and looking the other way
Cuts of gold going to some shady dudes who were probably reselling the gold (lol)
Offering an easy way for bought gold to enter the wider game economy

Sure, there might be some squeaky clean mom n’ pop GDKP’s out there, but let’s not pretend that everyone is on the up and up. The fact that most pro-GDKP guys defend it lead me to believe that they’re either clueless or disingenous/a bad actor.

So your entire guild directly partnered with a group that manages RMTers to sell carry runs, you’re a carry/boosting guild. You had whales served to you on a silver platter. All of this could have been accomplished if your guild were to sell the carry runs straight up. The only difference was that you used GDKP to distribute loot. If you replaced the words GDKP in this post with “master loot” or any other loot setting after selling the run, the results would have all been the same. Was this supposed to be insightful?

[Jacktorrence-benediction]

Here we are deep into SoD and the RMT swipers are still desperate to cheat by RMT via GDKP gold transfers. Please come play cata. CATA is absolutely fantastic and everyone is enjoying it immensely. You can RMT til your hearts content there. As for SoD, i am really looking forward to getting back into SoD after a little break. GDKP free. A completely different game dynamic than Cata but just as fun!

[Forkntoaster-dragonmaw]

@Tiyoo-area-52

The only difference was that you used GDKP to distribute loot.

Ya but GDKP has the potential to be way more lucrative.
Rather than the flat rate of a carry run.

This is why it’s the preferred method of RMT’rs.

Terrible attempt to spin

[Tiyoo-area-52]

@Forkntoaster-dragonmaw

Terrible attempt to spin

You’re delusional if you’re serious here. The problem clearly is the person that’s directly partnering up with gold sellers to run an ENTIRE carry/boosting operation, but you want to place the blame on GDKPs and not the person? Absurd.

[Forkntoaster-dragonmaw]

@Tiyoo-area-52

you want to place the blame on GDKPs

All I said is that it was their preferred method.

@Tiyoo-area-52

clearly is the person that’s directly partnering up with gold sellers

This is exactly whom is was referring to.

You continue to try and spin.

[Tiyoo-area-52]

@Forkntoaster-dragonmaw

All I said is that it was their preferred method.

It’s preferred among many more players than just RMTers. Why did you conveniently leave that out? You’re the one trying to spin it to a GDKP RMT story.

@Forkntoaster-dragonmaw

This is exactly whom is was referring to.

You didn’t refer to the person at all in your post, stop lying.

@Forkntoaster-dragonmaw

You continue to try and spin.

Now, elaborate on what exactly am I spinning? Or are you blindly calling it spinning when I’m pointing out that the problem is the gold seller’s partner?

[Diescumdie-lone-wolf]

I found it insightful

[Diescumdie-lone-wolf]

You’re spinning your wheels trying to come up with the perfect argument so Blizzard will say oh we are so sorry you were right all along GDKP is good for the game banning it was a horrible decision. Unfortunately for you that argument simply doesn’t exist so GDKP will remain banned and the majority of the playerbase will remain tickled pink by this glorious fact.

[Bullakae-crusader-strike]

But why is it only banned in one version of the game? Surely if it was that much of a success they would implement it across the other versions, no?

[Diescumdie-lone-wolf]

Oh it’s you again lol I don’t know what is going on with blizzard but I was told retail doesn’t have GDKPs so that leaves games that are close to kicking the bucket it would be a waste of their time. Classic Cata will probably be the last rerelease my reasoning is they gave us MOP remix already. What are they gonna do with ERA rerelease TBC again? Same for hardcore. My guess is this SOD will either run it’s course or become a second version of retail. Then there will be TWW and once CATA and the others die those 2 versions will be the only 2 left. So GDKP will be dead at that point.

[Bullakae-crusader-strike]

Retail has runs that would be banned under the current GDKP rules in SoD.

Cata has GDKPs. Era has GDKPs. Hardcore has GDKPs.

[Diescumdie-lone-wolf]

Dang I thought so! Grr to whoever used a verbage technicality to convince me otherwise. I’m guessing they will ban it to protect TWW so late August.

[Bullakae-crusader-strike]

I’m guessing they won’t. SoDs numbers didn’t increase after the ban, whether GDKPs are better or worst for the game in reality. They make decisions based off numbers.

[Forkntoaster-dragonmaw]

Whether it’s for RMT gains, or just Scrooge Mc Duck’ing in the virtual gold others have swiped for, these people will say anything…

[Diescumdie-lone-wolf]

I know it’s best to just moon them, shoo them, or pat them on the head. Gotta start prepping for P4 now lol

[Argentia-defias-pillager]

@Cibola-wild-growth

Sure, there might be some squeaky clean mom n’ pop GDKP’s out there

you mean the vast majority?

[Forkntoaster-dragonmaw]

Shirley, you can’t be serious.

[Elron-shadowstrike-au]

This would provide a better gameplay experience for everyone.