Still waiting for some proof other than “source: Trust me bro”. And if your argument is that GDKP is bad because one person bought gold and it flooded into a raid, then you might not wanna buy anything off the AH or receive gold from anyone ever, bc 90% of the gold in WOTLK came from bots and I can assure you that if you sell a BOE on the AH, it could be bought by a gold buyer, which makes you complicit, you terrible terrible human.
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No, you show me evidence everyone in your guild grinded for their gold.
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If you can prove that all the auctions you sell are only bought with legit gold.
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I dont have to? Im not the one crying about GDKP or Gold buying existing. If you want me to take your stance, you have to give me logical evidence as to why I should.
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Why don’t you show proof?
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Bad take. Prove to me every auction you sell is with legal gold.
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simple reason: There is no proof. It’s all speculation, hence why you cannot provide a single ounce of proof. If we just go around believing everyone is guilty then that means I could say you’re guilty of gold buying and you just have to believe me.
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Servers exist in Taiwan but not mainland Taiwan.
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Wouldn’t this be “buy”?
Pretty easy to prove selling is legit!or not. “Bob sells linen cloth at 500g each”.
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The GDKPers were asking for a GDKP server. There ya go. Join the Taiwanese server so you can buy your gold and give it back to the source at the same time to buy it again. Brilliant!
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Yes that’s precisely my argument. Because that’s exactly how it works. Your guild runs a couple of scrubs who drop, for arguments sake, 1000g on items and that get disseminated amongst your guild. Then your guild runs GDKP again, each member with hundreds of gold in their pocket, acting like they earned that legitimately.
Appeal to hypocrisy when you have zero actual arguments. “other stuff bad too so you should allow my bad stuff”
Bro the AH isn’t designed around profiting from RMT, GDKP is.
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Just reroll on Taiwan servers if you want GDKP.
Seems easy enough.
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Good leave western servers and go play there where they embrace cheating
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Sell. How can you be sure that everyone auction you sell isn’t bought by someone else with illegal gold?
You’re saying everyone in a GDKP is RMT and illegal gold, that same logic can be applied to the AH. Neither party knows exactly where the gold is coming from on their buyers end.
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Bro…we all know GDKPs had RMT involved. It’s not speculation.
The idea that “only my opponent needs to show proof” in an argument is so intellectually dishonest you should be thrown out of here.
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And again, we know the Auction House has RMT involved.
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The AH is one of the most used methods of laundering illicit gold into the game. GDKP was not designed around profiting from RMT, it was designed around players wanting an alternative to the trash loot systems in the game, and RMT just happens to be an issue that has always existed in WoW, so naturally it ends up being an issue in GDKP too, just like it is everywhere else. Your non-GDKP raids have gold buyers in them. Your pugs have gold buyers in them. Gold buyers are everywhere. Banning GDKP doesnt get rid of them. They just use their gold in other ways (I.E. to pay for stockades/SM boosts, buy consumes, buy mounts, fund their BOEs/alts)
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Yep it does.
There’s a difference between Timmy having his linen cloth be bought by an RMTer versus GDKP.
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Any sensible person knows that there is zero incentive for GDKP other than:
A: not being good at the game / not having a guild to run with, and therefore running a credit card to buy items to use for content you enjoy (like pvp)
B: profiting off people in group A
There are no legitimate players who go out and grind several hundred gold to drop 50+ gold on items with a 30% drop rate in raids with a 3 day reset. Anyone running with a guild of consistent friends know they will at worst get all their BIS within a couple weeks.
So explain to me why the hell any of them would be compelled to participate in an auction for items?
We already know, to get gold from the pugs you’re carrying.
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Every aspect of WoW has RMT involved. If you dont want RMT to be a problem, we better delete WoW. It will ALWAYS be a problem. The part that is speculation is who is RMTing. You cant with any validity say every GDKP group has a gold buyer in it, just like you can’t with any validity say that every GDKP group doesnt. Gold buyers lurk among us in every aspect of the game.
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