The loss of pay to win is no loss at all
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For how many of you GDKP enjoyers claim you don’t buy gold you’d think the barrier to entry into GDKP’s wouldn’t be in the TENS OF THOUSANDS OF GOLD in era or HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS elsewhere.
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very well put
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Bruh, take your 50,000 gold, come to Whitemane and spend it in MY GDKP runs. I guarantee you a bigger payout by the end of the raid! You’ll more than double what you spent!
It’s both a ponzi and pyramid scheme. Mob bosses around the world cream themselves over the average GDKP host.
Isnt MC meant to be done in blues to get the purples? Correct me if im wrong (which i know im not) most players wont have more then 1 or 2 epics before they step into MC for the first time.
yeah GDKP host cuts are why GDKPs are being banned tho!! OG GDKP the pot was split 100% between the raid no extra cuts.
Maybe you are expecting to bypass the gear chase too quickly by trying to do an AQ40 in greens?
I’ve found I’ve been able to easily get into raids on my 60 warrior (had to OT some maybe to get in)
And my 60 paladin has never been denied as heals
I also gear them up in all the dungeons from lvl 18 to 60 so they are in competent blues when I join an MC GDKP
As someone who enjoys GDKP some of these hosts are insane for sure. I prefer an even split with maybe 1% bonus to top heals, DPS, mt
20-30% host cuts is absurd!!!
okay, why would they be stupid? obviously they aren’t 100% effective but they would be much more effective than whatever failing system they have right now
and no, we won’t stop blaming players because it is there fault. you don’t give a felon a pass just because they stole from a store that couldn’t catch them due to faulty security
Joined a AQ40 GDKP once and saw a naked night elf sitting at the start… I asked why and was told not to talk about it by the RL in whisper and any further mention of it would end in me being booted…
I put 2 and 2 together and got that person was buying gold to be there.
Yes 
Lets not pretend it’s impossible to get to 60 within 10 days real time.
Because it is.
Listen to what you’re saying. You are suggesting a kernal anticheat to combat gold buying.
This isn’t Valorant where the entire game is focused explicitly on being a highly competitive game that also has a highly competitive esports scene.
We’re talking about wow classic gold buying and your solution is a kernal anticheat. That’s like putting bulletproof glass as your windshield to combat rain. It’s over the top and stupid when Blizzard had a solution over a decade ago, and that’s actual GMs.
A felon? We’re talking about people buying gold, and I’m not even referencing the buyers with what I said with that. I’m talking about literally the entire rest of the playerbase that doesn’t directly contribute to RMT.
Afk buyers.
Usually because their other account has been banned for gold buying.
They boost all the way to 60 buying gold that is being sold by the gdkpers, to then rebuy that gold off them for the gdkp. You see how attractive this is for an RMTer on both sides?
GDKPs highly incentivize gold buying.
Cycle things occur in
- Bots inflate the economy with gold farmed via quests, mob grinding, resources gathered/sold, etc.
- Botters sell gold on known 3rd party websites.
- GDKPs offer “carry” runs where players (especially undergeared ones) are incentivized to join. These players have to display how much gold they have to the raid lead that they have to buy items with (normally via trading window)
- Players have to bid on items to have a shot at getting them. The more you bid the higher chance you have. Thus, the more gold you walk in with the higher odds of guarenteeing yourself gear.
- Normally these prices are heavily inflated for rare BIS items especially. During WOTLK the “pot” of gold from carries buying items in some cases passed 1.2 Million gold. Some items were going for 500,000 gold each.
- After months of running GDKPs the raid lead and the GDKP team they run with normally has 10+ years of WoW subs prepaid and are at gold cap on all their chars. At this point they can either stop running GDKPs or whats way more common is “sell” the gold via third party sites.
- At this point the cycle is now complete now not only are GDKP groups selling gold on those sites but so are the bots. Thus, inflating the cost of items within WoW’s marketplace due to liquid gold in the market.
- Blizzard might ban the throwaway account, but they dont ban the source of the non-botted gold (GDKPs) thus there is a non-stop cycle of gold selling/buying directly tied to GDKPs. While bots are getting banned routinly those laundering gold via GDKPs enjoy immunity from bans even though they also end up many times selling gold.
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Don’t you get gold then if you don’t win? Can you just not spend all the gold you have on an item and walk out with more gold? Why would someone need to RMT to join a raid they intend on making gold from?
According to Blizzard GDKP was eroding the social aspect of the game in regards to guilds . Less people forming guilds for raids. Players were just going guildless and doing GDKPs for gear. Was not the gearing loop Blizzard liked.
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Yea. Blizzard devs lean heavily into communism, so they want you to be part of a hierarchal system lead by a sociopath who persuades you to farm his bugs and get his bindings. GDKP is antithetical to this because it gives players freedom to sell their services for gold. In a world where people are offered the choice between slave and freeman, freeman must be banned to maintain slave capital.
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The ones I heard people run the people being cared dont get a split of the gold because half the time they die and are useless to the raid “besides having hundreds of thousands of gold they bought off websites to buy items with”. Thus, only the people doing the carrying itself get a split.
People RMT for items in GDKPs because the prices are so inflated and its the only way to ensure they get the item over other people who are RMT’ing. People have spent the equivalent of 13,000$ worth of gold on a single item before in a GDKP. Its literally pay to win.
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Is this how you imagine it happening? Because the reality is far away from this.
You’re fearmongering yourself, just like the majority of the other anti gdkp players.
I never said that EVERY GDKP doesnt split the gold pot with the carries aswell. Just the ones ive heard of first hand from raid leads, “elite” players who was running 3-4 of them a week, etc.
I am sure the people dropping 3m gold on a BIS ring totally farmed dailies for 3000 days straight to farm that gold in classic. Totally that gold must be legit.