TIL that the unforgettable experiences I had back in the day were because of a secret cabal of GDKP guilds keeping the world alive. How ever would we have had an enjoyable open world MMO without GDKP?
Mounts, raid consumables and Scarab Lord are all OK though. Someone paying 50k gold for bug parts 100% legit.
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3m gold, dailies… You’re not talking about Classic. You’re talking about fake Classic where they’ve introduced the WoW token. Trash version of the game. Literally pay to win with the WoW token whether or not you have GDKP.
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This sounds made up.
How would they get multiple groups going every week if they’re constantly removing a key reason why people attend them in the first place?
Given GDKPs were basically non-existent in the original classic timeline (they existed but were extremely rare) you cant really compare that against the current meta which is rampant pay to win gold buying/selling.
In carry runs people are coming in severely undergeared and are not expected to contribute to the run. All they have to do is hit the boss 1 time and die and get their shot at loot via gold they likely purchased in advance of the raid. Those types of GDKPs pay the people doing the carries and the raid lead with gold and not those being carried themselves.
I’m not. I’m comparing WoW token versions of the game (Cataclysm Classic) to versions where there is no token (Era, fresh, SoD, hardcore). These are all versions which exist today.
And RMT is not the meta. It’s what a small percentage of losers do, but they do it enough to negatively impact the game as a whole.
Are you assuming this again or did one of your friends tell you?
If you have actually ever attended a GDKP you would know the last thing happening is people just throwing out gold like it’s nothing.
It’s a chore getting people to bid. So typically “contributing to the pot” counts the same as contributing to a kill. If you do neither, your cut is in question.
This made me laugh 
It reads like a segment from Idiocracy that hit the cutting room floor. You forgot YO and BOIs.
I had no idea people still GO HARD on 20 year old content
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because of gold buying, but people bought gold anyway; and people that couldnt get gear because they complained about GDKP, still couldnt get gear because usually those players wont go do the work for pre-bis or put effort in to be worth bringing to a raid.
inevitably; people will still buy gold its just the gold wont be so inflated because they wont put the effort in to go farm the consumes.
Ive literally sat in discord comms listening to those who partake in the GDKP runs sit and discuss the details on who is being invited (they purposely choose undergeared individuals with high gold on hand), they don’t give gold to the carries (in most cases) unless they bought decent sized items or contributed decently to the kills(the argument is basically they were dead weight if that happens), and they purposely avoid inviting players to the GDKP runs if they are almost fully geared as theyll likely spend less gold on the run.
I’ve also sat in comms as people mention what their doing with the gold. (refer to my previous posts in this thread to see what that is).
But sure, a half a dozen people discussing all the mechanics of how its gonna work must be all “in on it” and spreading misinformation to fool only me. Totally, makes sense.
Just like the people dropping 3 million gold in classic on a single item having farmed ALL that gold legitimately.
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I would argue that it’s people spending hundreds of dollars on items to get big numbers are the ones that play to feel good about themselves. I’m just here to spill Alliance blood.
- GDKP raid leads and raiders were selling gold to bulk gold buyers for RMT at wholesale rates after reaching gold cap on multiple toons.
- Said buyers sold that gold back to people at retail prices
- people used that gold to fund boosts to levelcap and after reaching levelcap, to fund getting gear for gold.
To blizzard’s stated reason, guild raids, guilds and the core gameplay loops in wow were affected by
a) causing more raiders to feel that their time was valued or could be valued in gold/hour
b) making non-GDKP rosters harder to fill
c) making people who wanted to progress but not buy gold pay a significant cost in terms of gear progression
d) (anecdotal) made stuff like wiping on bosses or people dying or not bringing consumes seem like a serious problem rather than a it being recognised for being a core part of the game
e) edit: forgot to mention, it also made people who couldn’t afford the inflated price of consumables and who were told they absolutely had to have them to compete, quit raiding / playing.
In summary, tis the same old story: “people who want to stop us multiboxers / gdkp / twinking / XYZ are just jealous / bad / selfish. They should leave us be in $our_game_loop despite the negative effect that it has on everyone else. They can just choose to not XYZ / twink / box / gdkp”
People who are against this change can’t recognise that their behaviour directly promotes botting and negative game dynamics. They’ll resort to andecdata, including swearing that they have never bought gold, as if everyone couldn’t see what was going on in Classic from about … P3? when gold buying became rampant.
100% spot on, couldnt have said it better myself. In the end the people who are vehemently against it being banned in my experience everytime i bring this up is the people who were abusing this gameplay loop and benefiting from laundered RMT gold. Which, they dont care because blizzard doesnt care once its N+1 steps away from the buyer and seller. So they get to sit back and get RMT gold without the risk it comes with.
I’ve played wow for a while and been in some decent guilds and it was always funny to me when my buddies before the next raid dropped would be like should I get 300k gold so I can outbid rveryone in gdkp/ have enough for consumes.
I guess with the change in society there are a lot more people willing to cheat with anaminity.
Unfortunately for them I always secretly reported them and got every single one of them banned
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I think most people wouldn’t mind if it didn’t incentivize botting and absolutely destroy the game economy. But everyone knows it does, its just those who directly benefit from it dont care because it puts them ahead of others around them.
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Do you think they bought the 3 million gold?
What’s the difference between obtaining that gold through GDKPs or Auction House play?
It never left, they just don’t advertise them publicly but if you think they ain’t happening in discords, i have a bridge to sell you
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And if blizzard catches people doing it they get banned. No different than people botting, etc.
Thank you for banning gdkps! Even though some will get through the cracks, there is a clear statement that gdkp violates the spirit of the game. And yes games have spirits.