Just waited 30 minutes for an insta throw RBG while also waiting 10 minutes for solo flex Q, which doesn’t even award gear.
Spending 50 hours on this character grinding them up to 259 pvp item level = deadweight in all ranked pvp modes at 0 CR.
In other games with pvp, you just download the game and then play matches. In WoW, the devs want every player to grind for 50+ hours before waiting 30 minutes for an insta throwing yolo RBG for weeks so that they can get enough gear to make a 3s lobby and wait 20 minutes for a healer who leaves after one game.
It is a miracle that this game even has people queueing up for pvp at all.
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I think that shuffle has a lot of potential if they make gearing easy and do away with gimmicky 1-shots.
Yeah, best case scenario is that you buy crafted/vendor gear for gold and can hop right in asap.
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This is the easiest and quickest it has ever been to gear bar Legion?
The function of gear farm is to get people to play more, to get them to play the content with other players more. The gear farm is actively preventing players from playing the game. So this argument doesn’t even launch off the ground because it never solves any problems in the first place.
It worked when it was easily/casually accessible.
People aren’t playing because retail is legit dog atm. People getting bopped from 100 in 0.0 seconds from all the rerolls.
I legit played a skyfury bot in my most recent lfg session where my dmg is irrelevant I just goal keeper my lock and hpal and then he one shots someone with 80k demonbolts.
Game is bad and that’s why it’s dead. All 3 lock specs are so rediculous right now, only one that is remotely livable against is Aff if you pillar hump.
WOTLK was so unbalanced but at least it was fun. This sucks - but im committing for the drake.
it’s the fastest it’s been in a long time sure but it’s still awful for the average player
the vast majority of “pvpers” exist in casual content like random bgs
psure blizzards thoughtprocess was
"if we can make even 1/3rd of those bgers queue ranked content for gear upgrades we’ll triple ranked participation
then if we make ranked players need honor they’ll contribute to casual content participation !"
ultimately all it did was make all the casuals quit and tilt all the ranked players with stupid upgrade requirements and tedious honor grinds that aren’t fun
tl;dr gearing is still awful even if veteran players can speed run the systems and rated arena will have 4.5k players if the next expansion is as punishing
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I only maintain one character, so it’s not difficult to stay up to date on gear. However, alts are still miserable and expensive to maintain, and more work is necessary to make gearing not such a painful experience.
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I have 4 geared toons with relatively low effort outside of 400k gold for all the 291 leggos. It’s nowhere close to being as bad as many expacs before after all these changes.
If you cant grind 10-20 hours to max gear a toon then good riddance. That’s zero effort which can be done while having fun on your alt with friends.
Instant gratifications just encourages FOTM as fast as humanly possible and paid boosts.
I woukd say MoP and Wod were far easier. You had 1 honor set and 1 conquest set and thats it. No gear discrepancies or upgrading of gear making for far less honor grinding.
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pathetic. enjoy waiting for a dueler’s guild queue to pop
then don’t play wow, go play the “other games”
I mean it’s super free to gear up with zero gear right now in arena. Do like 5 2s/3s/1 RBG a day for 7 days and that’s almost full gear in 7-10 hours.
Guess you guys didn’t play 40-55 hour weeks on Classic WoW back in the day this is laughable amount of effort.
“just get into a group” is null advice for new or just bad players. worthless.
are you just a stupid person? why do you think a version of the game that wasn’t at all intended to be accessible is any kind of a blueprint for a version of the game that is visibly dying of inaccessibility?
put another way: if classic wow were a viable gameplay model for modern players, why is the population on wow classic desiccated to nothingness? why did they bother to release bc, if that version of the game was perfect?
Skoosh you clearly want to just stomp noobs to get higher rating I get it once they get full gear they just accept their bad and you farm them.
This game is dying because Blizzard lacks effort on making balance changes timely 1. Rewards for competitive PvP scene is a joke so their is nothing exciting or worth dedicating to 2, and they don’t create events for casual people in PvP. They haven’t done enough and people have had it.
New people sure is good for the game, but honestly the game is way beyond being exciting or fresh for pretty much anyong above 18 years old they’ve experienced this time of genre and would prefer mindless games over full committing in an RPG.
Culture has changed MMO Genre, and WoW is never gonna be like COD or LOL where you can just turn it on and be perfectly geared to go to the top in a single sitting.
It’d be kind of neat if they tried it for one patch/season, preferably the first one of an expansion.
League is flourishing partially because the devs understand that the people who play it don’t have anybody that want to play with them and makes it super accessible as a solo player.
I’d be up for it too Kennie, but most Raiders would have an outrage and say they got free PVP gear where is our gear and the cycle of gear racing continues.
I’d love to be on the same level as other players but at least have customization options like reforging etc.
Gearing up is exciting for many RPG players and just logging on grabbing all gear to just blast away seems almost like the game would have to be radically more exciting to keep people engaged.
They don’t do anything for the players anymore outside this x y z quest and gear up process. They aren’t willing to radically change their gearing idealogy for us either.
I dunno man - I don’t have much hope for that regard, although I will say it’s way easier then the past.
Yeah, it was super tragic to hear that we can’t have equal gearing now because it’d mean that pvp gear is bis for the world. Like, world content. World quests and wpvp.
Heck.
