Fyr’Alath RNG

Just remove the legendary if this is the stance.

So tired of these types of posts. We get it, you don’t have the axe. I wish a warning came out before introducing a legendary saying: you are not entitled to this.

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It’s becoming clear that the playerbase is eager to get a response on this from Blizz, these posts are clearly quite popular and they grow more numerous by the day, I for one have 21 Greater Embers and no axe to show for it, and as a player that doesn’t raid and has been raiding for the axe every week, and having witnessed players with more embers than I from Heroic kills for that matter coming up empty handed and then seeing players get it on the first go (nothing wrong with that) it indicates the BLP either isn’t effective enough to matter or does nothing.

Hypothetically if the drop chance is .9% and each ember gives you .3% you’re still looking at a tiny miniscule drop chance, why add bad luck protection at all if you’re still banking on hitting the lottery? It’s probably lower than that. When they announced the BLP they made it sound like it was a game changer that was going to reward players for hard work and effort.

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Only for the bindings. And how is it semantics when you said when MC was current? Sure vanilla was weird and every raid was ‘current’ even into naxx due to how gear progression worked back then. But one would think when someone says ‘current’ they mean, ‘the progression raid at the time’. When Thunderfury was added, Blackwing Lair was the ‘current’ raid.

Are you doing LFR then normal by any chance? Doing so damages your changes of getting it since you are doing each of them individually instead of allowing it to be added together if you just do normal first. And if you do normal first, the normal greater will apply to LFR as well. As per the post Blizzard put out when the axe was able to drop from any difficulty.

Each difficulty has its own base % drop chance. The higher the difficulty, the higher the base. Also given that the greaters have the difficulty listed on them, one can assume that the greaters give different blp dependent on the difficulty. Therefore you are better off doing the highest difficulty you can do first. Instead of starting with LFR and going up from there.

Also blp was added because evokers whined about their legendary being a super rare drop. This time, Blizzard brought in blp for Fyr’alath from the get go (after each region first mythic fyrakk kill)

I feel some people have this expectation that if something has blp, then you should get it after like 5 or so attempts. Even from something like LFR where the drop chance is really low by design. Clearly that is not how Blizzard coded the blp for both the evoker legendary and Fyr’alath. My guess is because of season 4 being a fated season. Which is why I find all of these, “whaa, where is my legendary” posts to be funny. They act as if it is only going to be used for season 3. Even though we do have evidence that blizzard might enable us to use it in season 4 by boosting up its ilvl. The evidence being the Sylvanas bow from Shadowlands.

Which never has, and still doesn’t have any form of blp.

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Good job. You sure showed me! >_>

Not everyone have a class that can get it, or raid at all.

Or it backfires and people ragequit and unsub cause they get sick of placebo embers instead of the quest starter item.

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That includes ppl that aren’t actively trying to get it

Exactly what happened to me. Played since early '05, and the absolute bait and switch of “BLP” this time around got me to say no more for good

i got mine… system is fine as is.

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Last try for me was this evening.

It’s just pixels in the end, but the axe’s RNG acquisition has left a bad taste in my mouth, so I’m out until TWW. I have the 12-month sub, so I might log in for the holiday events, I dunno.

If there is anything like Fyr’alath in TWW, I’ll shelve it.

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you’d be wrong then. Fangs, Shadowmourne, Vala’nyr, Tarecgosa.

So what are you actually saying? Just trying to be a pain for people? That’s all you look like you’re doing. What value are you bringing this thread? Being a pain isn’t bringing value.

Imo there shouldn’t be any rng when it comes to an item that several classes are apparently balanced around, and instead, acquisition should be skill-based-- Maybe something in the vein of the Legion mage tower so that non-raiders have a shot at it.

I didn’t say every single legendary had RNG. I said that RNG has always been a thing associated with legendaries.

Please learn to read.

“always”

And you’d be wrong still because Fangs, Shadowmourne, Vala’nyr, Tarecgosa.

So again, are you just trying to be a pain for people?
That’s all you look like you’re doing. What value are you bringing this thread?

Being a pain isn’t bringing value.
Being false information doesn’t bring value.
Insulting people with correct information doesn’t bring value.
Are you questioning your inherent value to this world yet?

Personally I could care less if I get it, keeps me busy shooting my shots each week. I don’t think anyone should feel entitled to it but I do find it funny that Blizz made it sound like the BLP was some kind of game changer. When I’m not seeing any trends indicating that people killing Heroic every week are receiving the axe any more often than people on Norm. Looks to me like the %increase regardless of difficulty or quantity of embers isn’t significant enough to alter the rate of acquisition by any meaningful amount.

example if I have 2 Heroic embers 11 Norm, and 10LFR and I get a heroic kill, lets say it rolls me a .3% for each of those embers (Total 23)X3 for Norm, LFR and Heroic the drop chance would be about 20% and it’s probably safe to say that’s being generous since each ember is of different value for difficulty. I’d rather shoot my low odds shots separately even if it allots to slightly less, since I’m basically gunnin for a jackpot anyway. Personal preference, I don’t expect to get it unless they change the drop chance.

I don’t think it’s in any way broken (although it could be I have 0 evidence to support it functioning or not functioning), however I don’t think Blizz is paying enough attention to the rate of acquisition and how it’s being received because with the energy they announced BLP with it seemed like they intended for more people to have it by now, really just a hunch though.

The sad thing is people are going to cry and cry and eventually (hopefully not) they will just remove legendary gear, ruining yet another good and fun part of wow. Hate to see it.

I personally really like legendary gear and how rare it is. Probably because I don’t feel entitled to it, and I feel ok if I’m not lucky enough to get it. I understood the concept of legendary, and the fact that not everyone is supposed to have it.

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Dang I thought this was all QQ; the stats shown in this thread have changed my mind. Sounds like it needs a bit of a drop adjustment.

Nothing dramatic, but it seems far too low as-is.

Up to 0.85% today, whoopie! :man_facepalming:

Any in game system that leaves far, far more people frustrated than happy is a bad system. Period.

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