I mean, sure. Balance Druids are evidence of that, but she is beyond that as well. Arcane and the Light. And maybe Void of Death, depending on how the Night Warrior Lore goes.
Sure, but that’s not really the same undeath we see from the playable characters. And we have not seen the Night Warrior do that. In fact, we have seen her do the opposite with Undead.
Yes it is. Anyone who knows anything about Night Elves knows that.
No it isn’t.
Yes I have.
The fact is that you don’t know what a Loa is. You just stated Loas are wildgods, then accepted when I stated that Elune is a Loa.
Loa are beings of power that Trolls revere. They are not specifically Wild Gods. Their worship is not specifically druidism. Hunters can and do worship Wild Gods. They are not made into Druids by that act.
Its hard to point towards the Zandalari and really homogenize their culture into anything other than the Darkspear’s previously established norms. The Zandalari are only the second player race that can be Paladins; Druids; and Shamans … yet like the Darkspear’s Druids and Shamans, these three classes all have extremely strong ties to the Loa.
It really seems to depend on who their primary patron Loa is, and how they choose to utilize the boons provided by that patron. Loa is just a term that applies to any entity that Troll’s worship. This applies to Wild Gods, entities of the material “Spirit” Domain, entities of the Shadowlands (like Bwon), and even entities of the Void (like G’huun). The power gained from these Loa can manifest into the power of the Light, Spirit, Nature, Void, Shadow, etc…
Loa and Wild Gods are the same. You can worship Loa without being a druid, but they are druidic in nature. You are not a Paladin if you are a warrior of a Loa. You are empowered by nature magic, which Blizzard uses the Paladin class to interpret. Similar to the Nelf Paladin in Legion, she is empowered by Elune, not the Holy Light.
It clearly shows the nature deity supposedly so concerned about “the balance” freely raising the undead and not considering it unnatural or a corruption of the world. And as you supposedly point out, if Bwonsamdi believes that, Elune could, too.
We have seen the acting Night Warrior want the Undead to rejoin her and would want to welcome them back:
Even Maiev would would show Sira mercy and probably welcome her back:
Sira Moonwarden says: Show no mercy, for you can expect none from Maiev.
Maiev Shadowsong says: Sira… No… Turn back now, or I will be forced to strike you down!
No.
Some Wild Gods are Loa. Not all Loa are Wild Gods.
Rezan specifically empowered prelates with the Light. I posted the source for that a few posts up.
See, you keep making declarative statements without backing them up. Then you expect anyone to take what you say seriously.
If you are implying that Elune is going to start raising the Dead, then sure, I guess. But I don’t think that is likely to happen, and undeath outside of that would be considered an abomination, and that is not arguable.
Tyrande is not the Night Warrior. She is the living avatar of Elune, who is the Night Warrior.
Troll will attribute the title Loa to several things, but most Loa we have seen are Wild Gods, such as Rezan and Bwonsamdi.
But not all?
WHAT.
HAHAHAHA.
Wild Gods are not part of the Death cosmology.
That we have seen? I can’t think of any that wouldn’t be. G’huun I guess.
Yes, the cosmic wheel does not disprove that.
Life and Death are connected.
And Bwonsamdi.
It absolutely does. It absolutely puts Wild Gods under the Life domain.
They’re opposites. As depicted. This isn’t an unreliable narrator’s opinion, like Ulfar. This is canon, inarguable, undeniable fact written in Chronicles.
Bwonsamdi is a Wild God.
And Death does not exist without life. The Cosmology chart only shows the domains that exist, but not how those domains relate to eachother.
If we were to take their positions into any consideration, then Fel is Light-adjacent. Their positions do not mean anything.
It is arguable. And once again:
Beyond that, you just strengthen my point:
They are one and the same.
Tyrande Whisperwind says: With this offering, I demand to wear your darkest face.
Tyrande Whisperwind says: Elune! Make me the instrument of your vengeance!
Tyrande Whisperwind says: Now, we shall have justice. The Night warrior lives… within me.
And as such the rest of what I said stands, even if you want me to rephrase it a bit:
I would argue Nightborne are biologically Night Elves with higher cheek bones and ears which curve differently. Their size. Their demeanor is definitely old Kal’dorei, but culturally they’re more like Sin’dorei and look at magic in a similar way to Blood Elves.
I don’t see that much of a difference biologically between Kal’dorei and Shal’dorei. The ethnic differences between the elves can be noted once you compare the Night loving elves to the Daylight loving ones. Culturally the Night Loving Elves from Suramar are closer in ideology to their Blood Elf distant cousins and not their much closer relations Night Elves.
No evidence supports that position. None at all.
Sure it does. It shows how sides are opposed. Chaos is opposed to order. Light is opposed to void. Life is opposed to death.
FURTHERMORE? The Shadowlands existed before the Emerald Dream and the Wild Gods did. They’re very recent creations, created by the Titans. Trolls existed before the Titans came. Bwonsamdi existed BEFORE THE TROLLS DID.
Fel magic burns and illuminates. It is corrupted, chaotic light energy.
No it isn’t. You have been unable to do so this entire thread.
The Night Warrior is the face of Elune, Tyrande is “Wearing her face” . The Night Warrior is Elune herself still, not Tyrande.
That’s just how it is. Sorry you are wrong again.
So Chaos is Light-Adjacent? Interesting.
You heared it hear folks. Warlocks are actually Priests. The Burning Legion and the Army of the Light are one in the same!
The War on Argus was a civil War.
The clarion call of a completely defeated argument:
I gotta say, I’m uncomfortable with the idea of wrapping all of the loa under the druidism umbrella. Because the class is already so heavily saturated in night elven themes, I feel like those connections would just be subsumed by night elf lore.
I know that some connections are inescapable because of night elves coming from trolls and all, but it seems like the inverse of the hypothetical I asked yesterday about night elf themes being diluted if other races started worshipping Elune. Pointing to the loa and saying they’re all druidic in nature instantly brands them as lesser versions of night elf themes, which seems lousy.
She’s wrong.
The Shadowlands existed before the Emerald Dream and the Wild Gods did. The latter two are creations of the Titans when they visited Azeroth. The Trolls existed before the Titans arrived.
Bwonsamdi existed before the Trolls did.
I think the biggest issue with the NB going Horde was again in the way Blizz presents it. We have only one instance of Tyrande insulting them. If they wanted to go with Tyrande driving them into the Horde and the belves there should have been more instances of her snubbing or even outright denying aid to the NB
I’m personally of the opinion that the Blood Elves winning them over makes sense.
A real life diplomat made an entire thread about this: