Frustration with VElves and Nightborne

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

Plenty of people were asking for Nightborne when they did the questing.

[Jazia-sargeras (Jazia)]

Ah good. We have all the prominent Night Elf posters in one thread.

Someone go get the catapults.

I just want you to know that I was eating a burger when I read this.

I nearly choked to death.

You are a bad person and you should feel bad!

[Ariël-drakkari (Ariël)]

Because the Intro Scenario for Void Elves sucks and it was terrible.

Damage already hit Helves, dude… after them being totally A-ok with Velves their reservations regarding draining maná from wyrms is rofl-worthy. Helves already are the biggest hypocrites ever.

Also you have no respect for vampires in general if you think all Vampires are from the crappy book/movie Twilight.

Dude, becasue I have A LOT of respect for actual Vampires (in serious literature I really liked Bram Stoker´s Dracula… and regarding modern adaptations I´m a complete fangirl of both Buffy the Vampire Slayer´s Spike -God how much I despise Angel in comparison, blegh- and Kota Hirano´s Alucard -I love how he acts like a remorseless predator, period.-) is that I´m complete against the San´layn version most fans want (A.K.A. edgelord supermodels with zero drawbacks… give me my highly powerful but highly vulnerable vampires. Yes, creatures that do turn to dust on daylight and whose real appearance is like a really ugly corpse, etc).

I just want you to know that I was eating a burger when I read this.

I nearly choked to death.

You are a bad person and you should feel bad!

I suspect you were not the only one that got a good laugh over that phrase… personally I think is the best comment from the thread if only for the dark comedy potential.

[Treng-wyrmrest-accord (Treng)]

@Ariël-drakkari

Dude, becasue I have A LOT of respect for actual Vampires (in serious literature I really liked Bram Stoker´s Dracula… and regarding modern adaptations I´m a complete fangirl of both Buffy the Vampire Slayer´s Spike -God how much I despise Angel in comparison, blegh- and Kota Hirano´s Alucard -I love how he acts like a remorseless predator, period.-) is that I´m complete against the San´layn version most fans want (A.K.A. edgelord supermodels with zero drawbacks… give me my highly powerful but highly vulnerable vampires. Yes, creatures that do turn to dust on daylight and whose real appearance is like a really ugly corpse, etc).

You didn’t mention the only vampire worth giving a heck about.

[Ariël-drakkari (Ariël)]

Kain hehehe… well I was more a Raziel fangirl back then, but yes, he´s much more decent character than “Edward”.

#uglybutpowerfulSan´layn

[Drahliana-earthen-ring (Drahliana)]

@Amadis-draka

@Drahliana-earthen-ring

If anything is going to make the Night Elves less dedicted to Elune, it would be the perceived total failure to act when her “chosen people” needed her most. It remains to be seen whether Tyrande’s ascension to the Night Warrior is a sufficient counter. I would say that the answer is no if Darkshore does not resolve beyond an eternal stalemate.

They haven’t been implemented yet, but for Darkshore we have this cutscene and quest datamined:

https://www.wowhead.com/quest=54006/a-new-hope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-bEPZ5_tAE

That’s a pathetically small crowd. I’m rather embarrassed to see it described as a victory speech.

[Treng-wyrmrest-accord (Treng)]

Kain hehehe… well I was more a Raziel fangirl back then, but yes, he´s much more decent character than “Edward”.

[Darrethy-wyrmrest-accord]

I feel like Treng and me have this weird thing where our actual lore stances for WoW are super far apart, but our pop culture sensibilities are completely in tune.

Or it might be that regardless of what stance you have in life, it’s impossible to deny Legacy of Kain is a masterpiece.

[Tannaril-area-52 (Tannaril)]

she chose to pursue and alliance with the NEs and was rejected.

Which is stupid.

I didn’t think it was that bad. But then, given how anti-arcane magic the NE are (or should be), I don’t think they would ever accept the NB, even if the hadn’t ducked out of the war of the ancients and left them to fight it.

[Treng-wyrmrest-accord (Treng)]

I feel like Treng and me have this weird thing where our actual lore stances for WoW are super far apart, but our pop culture sensibilities are completely in tune.

Or it might be that regardless of what stance you have in life, it’s impossible to deny Legacy of Kain is a masterpiece.

I think there’s room for forsaken crap, just not ruling the Horde and forcing the Horde to be Forsaken, too.

Undead stuff is my favorite stuff in the setting. Everyone just thinks it’s orcs.

[Darrethy-wyrmrest-accord]

Fair, something at the very least I can sympathize with. In MoP I hated working for Garrosh because I knew I was actively supporting a tyrant who’d suppress my culture, it’s just happening in reverse now.

[Akiyass-moon-guard (Akiyass)]

That’s the nature of their race, not that they are Undead.

[Treng-wyrmrest-accord (Treng)]

That’s the nature of their race, not that they are Undead.

That’s the nature of the race after they died doing messed up sacrificial pacts with an heretofore unnamed entity.

When they were alive, they were Vrykul.

[Cártian-wyrmrest-accord]

And the Night Elves helped reclaim Suramar for the Nightborne but apparently that’s not consider a “time of day”.

Tyrande Whisperwind says: The kaldorei will fight to see the Legion defeated and the Nightwell destroyed. Beyond that… we shall see where Elune’s wisdom guides us.

Both Night Elves and Blood Elves assisted in saving Suramar from the Legion. After that, the Night Elves stopped caring. The Blood Elves reached out.

[Murdra-wildhammer (Murdra)]

The Nightborne expected to be pampered and the Blood Elves obliged.

[Drahliana-earthen-ring (Drahliana)]

The Nightborne expected to be pampered and the Blood Elves obliged.

They expected sympathy, not rebukes. They tried to reunite with the Night Elves and Tyrande pretty much slammed the door in their faces. Tyrande has an almost Troll-like adversion towards dealing with racial offshoots of her people.

[Amadis-draka (Amadis)]

Yo, I heard someone was calling my Bro Amadis not a Night Elf fan?

I disagree with him on pretty much everything, sometimes to heated extremes, but he’s pretty articulate. Some of the best conversations i’v had about the nature of Warcraft’s setting happened with his posts.

Hey, some of the best discussions I’ve had around here were with you, too.

I won´t contest Amadis regardiung Nelves

Well hell, that probably would have been the nicest thing anyone’s ever said about me around here if it wasn’t for Darethy right above coming in first.

[Ariël-drakkari (Ariël)]

Well hell, that probably would have been the nicest thing anyone’s ever said about me around here if it wasn’t for Darethy right above coming in first.

I´m not “nice just because” and you now it better than anyone (you are the poster I metaphorically clawed in the face harder than anyone)… but one can´t contest truth. And you Mr., DO know much more than me regarding Nelves so…

[Akiyass-moon-guard (Akiyass)]

Drust were not Vrykul lol

[Murphio-moon-guard (Murphio)]

I don’t think Void Elves ever should have existed, and Lightforged is just straight confusing to me because they seem more like customization options than an actual race. in function they’re just Draenei with less classes, not even distinct in any meaningful way.
It should have been Broken, and the Alliance should have either: Gotten another allied race in the stead of Void Elves, or gotten a better build up to the introduction of Void Elves.

But it’s already done with so it’s useless to complain about it now.

As for Nightborne I believe they are far better suited to the Horde as well as the Blood Elves. The Night Elves fit with the Alliance in the same way the Forsaken fit in the horde, in that they are unlikely allies all things considered, but that’s just my opinion of course.

Finally to get to the actual point of the thread, I really do think this is just whining. Maybe it’s somewhat justified with the way Night Elves are treated to some extent, but they’ve gotten the better part in all of this. The Night Elves are still one of the most important races in the game, and they get to do this while keeping their flavor of elf unique to themselves.