Frostmourne Transmog?

Even Shalamayn was turned into a mourneblade when Zovaal twisted it in order to control Anduin.

Frostmourne didn’t have sentience.

Shadowmourne is a Mourneblade.

As per the warcraft wiki;

Mourneblades are incredibly powerful runeblades of [Domination] magic. Associated with the [Maw] and [the Jailer], they are capable of shattering [souls] into fragments when wielded with rage. A portion of the victim’s soul is absorbed to empower the mourneblade, while the remaining portion continues to the [Shadowlands] as normal. The Jailer’s mourneblades inevitably attempt to consume their own wielders’ souls as well.”

Shadowmourne is not Domination magic or associated with the maw/jailer. It is not a mourneblade.

I’ll also say that Xinove is partially correct about the sentience; while it’s not outright stated that Frostmourne is sentient, it’s described as “being as much the ruler of Northrend as the lich king himself” and displaying a high level of intelligence. These statements are rather vague but it does imply the sword has some level of sentience

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Shadowmourne is a mourneblade. It doesnt matter how many times you say it isnt, it absolutely is. Shadowmourne has more in common with Frostmourne than Frostmourne does with Kingsmourne. Each of them had a different creator too. We made Shadowmourne, the Nathrezim or the Primus made Frostmourne depending on how much consistency in the story you want to break, and Kingsmourne was made by some low level NPC’s in Torghast. They arent special, they dont need a connection to the jailer, they dont have to dominate the mind of the wielder.

Wrong. Frostmourne wasnt sentient even in the slightest. It was literally part of the Lich King. When Ner’zhul was punished and his soul was basically ripped apart and empowered he was put into the armor AND Frostmourne. Its a complete package. When he expelled Frostmourne from the Frozen Throne was was expelling a part of himself.

It literally doesnt, its part of the Lich King. Its like saying your hand has intelligence of its own thus having its own sentience. Its not the case, its a part of you you are giving it the thing that makes it look like it has sentience. Kingsmourne didnt even have sentience. It just housed the soul of Arthas, or the remnant of it because we dont quite know if Frostmourne just split the soul, of if it consumed it completely. In Wrath and up through Legion it says consumed souls, in SL it says fragmented them. If thats the case then there should be Arthas somewhere out there in the Maw unless his soul read the script and knew to fall right into the jailers lap. So which is it?

SL brought up more questions than it answered. We already had answers to mourneblades and Shadowmourne was literally that and we got chastised by Arthas for using a mourneblade. He said the player is no better than he is using such a weapon.

Oh and when I say they arent special, I dont mean that they arent unique. I mean there isnt one thing that you can point to in saying “this is a mourneblade”.

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I can’t find a source for the intelligence part so I’ll concede that point for now, however it has been stated before. As for Frostmourne and its status as a mourneblade;

“Frostmourne and the [Helm of Domination] were crafted at the [Runecarver’s Oubliette] in [Torghast] by the [Runecarver], who was forced against his will to do so by [the Jailer]. The Jailer intended to use the blade and the Helm to establish his influence on [Azeroth), thereby allowing him to claim his “final prize”, a secret that the [First Ones] sought to hide. As a mourneblade adorned with the runes of [Domination], Frostmourne contained the power of the [Maw]. Frostmourne was the “finest” of the Runecarver’s mourneblades, but was later surpassed in terms of power by [Kingsmourne]”

We never infuse shadowmourne with the power of the maw, we infuse it with the power of blood, frost and unholy. Once again, shadowmourne is not a mourneblade. At this point I’m sure you’re just trolling so I’m going to leave it at this, having posted all my sources while you have posted none, and let you get back to your head canon on my ignore list. Good day

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I would return to my DK in a heartbeat if we could get Frostmourne. I was so disappointed when I found out they made Frost DW shards of the blade in Legion.

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And its been stated before that Arthas was a Frost DK, doesnt make it right or true.

And I know the crappy Shadowlands lore that retconned a pretty well written story and just took a dump all over it.

Shadowmourne has the same runes on it that Frostmourne does. If they are runes of domination on frostmourne then they are runes of domination on Shadowmourne. This is the problem with bad writers and inconsistencies. Shadowmourne is a mourneblade. The runecarver (which is actually the Primus) didnt even create Kingsmourne. He created 1 mourneblade that we know of and that was Frostmourne so he doesnt have this laundry list of mourneblades under his belt. He has 1, the mawsworn have another called Kingsmourne and the Ebon Blade has another Shadowmourne.

Also, the player infuses the blade with a bunch of nasty stuff not just Frost Unholy and Blood. It has the blood of Yogg Saron, you have to feed it 50 souls of the Lich Kings minions, Infused with Frost Blood and Unholy, the power sealed by the Frozen Throne and then finally forged in a runeforge. The maw is definitely in there even if the Jailer has no influence over the wielder.

You also didnt post a source, you posted a wicky that doesnt have any sources saying what a mourneblade is. I looked at it.

And no, its not head canon, Shadowmourne is a mourneblade and has been since it was created. The SL lore does not say that it isnt, and it doesnt say that it is, so we have to take the evidence of what these blades are and again Shadowmourne has more in common with Frostmourne than Frostmourne has with Kingsmourne.

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Shadowmourne is a runeblade but not a mourneblade.

Mourneblades are powerful types of runeblades related to the powers of the maw and the jailor.

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Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
https://youtu.be/UY3oZH6Piz4?t=142

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It’s a Mourneblade.

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Man… it would be great if shadowlands never happened…

Basically made iconic figures in our class peons (worker) and slapped around even depriving us of important lore.

honestly if Diablo can get frostmourne why can’t we death knights get it?

Give us a small quest line to remake a mourne blade in its image… could even change based on spec like our class mount does… would be epic….

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We don’t even need to make a mourneblade.
just make a normie steel replica for transmog.
done and done.

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Which is quite easy, if I remember right we even got sargeras’s sword… in the trading post…

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Do you ever get tired of having these dumb pointless takes that you take something out of context not knowing that its an expression in pop culture to say that your weapon hungers for battle, or that it thirsts for blood? Its an expression, it doesnt mean that Frostmourne is literally its own sentient being. If you went outside and watched some movies maybe you wouldnt be this bad at trying to own someone.

But no Frostmourne is not sentient, its a part of the Lich King. The Lich King was bound to it and the armor. Not to mention that there is absolutely no evidence anywhere that mourneblades have to be attached to the maw or the jailer. None what so ever. The Wiki is not evidence, its a place to compile information and that information has to be linked to a source. Wiki itself is not a source. So where it talks about mourneblades shattering a soul into fragments is the questline of getting Uthers soul fragment back. It says that mourneblades can shatter a soul into fragments. If the jailer gets ahold of one of these fragments then the soul cannot be fully mended. So how would the Jailer get ahold of one of these fragments? We know that Frostmoune was not a soul portal to the maw because when Frostmourne was shattered all the souls were released from it. Terenas Menethil II was one of these souls released and the Jailer had his soul fragment in Torgast along with Uthers. We know Uther was struck down by Arthas and the majority of his soul was sent to the Shadowlands to be sorted by the Arbiter. So what would the Arbiter do with soul fragments? They had to have been sorted but what would the Arbiter do with just a fragment of a soul? Just send it into the trash bin of the Shadowlands that is the maw? Try to sort it? Is there enough information to sort it? Would there be some error that the soul was already sorted and thus couldnt be sorted again and just tossed it into the maw?

The Shadowlands raised more questions than it answered which shows the failure it was at anything.

Shadowmourne is a mourneblade. It fragmented souls and made the wielder stronger. Thats what a Mourneblade is. Frostmourne, Shadowmourne, and Kingsmourne are all mourneblades even though Kingsmourne was lame and inconsistent. Kingsmourne is literally the odd one out. It was able to be split apart into its seperate swords after being reforged into one? How does that work?

Shadowlands should be forgotten. It literally raised more questions than it answered. In fact there wasnt even anything to be answered with the DK or Lich King. It was already answered but they messed with it and completely ruined it.

So no, Frostmourne wasnt sentient, no mourneblades do not have to be linked to the maw or jailer and no you arent correct. Keep trolling though.

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You lied.
You stated that Frostmourne didn’t have sentience.
We know it does.
I provided evidence to your being wrong.

So I didn’t have a dumb pointless take. I had an intelligent, correct take.
:relieved:

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I’ve always taken the “frostmourne hungers” quite literally, I mean if it can “devour souls” even if just in shards of a soul, it should have an innate hunger for them right?

After all magic is a mysterious force and one would never truly know the effects of the magic cast unless we are there in person, in that world…

What’s more it’s not like blizzard will actually tell all these little details too much…

But even if it’s just a vague sentience for “hunger of the soul” and forming a symbiotic relationship with itself and its current wielder even if of instinct.

Therefore even if it’s just “hunger” that’s a form of consciousness, a desire a need…

It’s an expression. It doesn’t have a hunger for anything. Its part of the Lich King himself. It’s actually the Lich King that hungers for the battle to come. To make his army bigger with the greatest champions the world has seen yet and he wants them to be his and then no one could stop him.

Frostmourne hungers just sounds cool and menacing. Like saying your sword will drink the blood of your enemies. It’s not literal. It just means if you come, you will die by my blade. A taunt of sorts.

can we just make this thread about xmogs for classic/frostmourne era DK lore?

https://i.imgur.com/pKVed03.png 
https://i.imgur.com/uFs3Q7o.png
https://i.imgur.com/JJ5NTj3.png
https://i.imgur.com/d3QnTtb.png
https://i.imgur.com/d7QrxGW.png

PS, anyone know how to get back my ability to post links? :sweat_smile:

Don’t even do that much. Our resident troll is right in the Frostmourn was shattered and reforged into another blade.

Just put a cosmetic item for it on the vender in Acherus who sells armor and weapons. Do it with as little fanfare as possible. It’s just a cool little cosmetic in a game for the players who’ll enjoy it.

Read Arthas, the novel.
Arthas discusses how the sword whispers to him.

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