"Fresh TBC" - Why a fresh start for all realms will benefit WOW CLASSIC

I would not relevel a single character. I have 8 classes at 40+, 6 of them 60. It’s an insult and slap in the face. I’ve also got a thunderfury and I’m not throwing it in the trash just because some crybabies don’t know how to make gold.

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I have 2 horde 60s on Fairbanks and 2 alliance 60s on Atiesh. I would very much prefer not having to start fresh. If I did then I’d probably reroll something that can level quickly. Most likely level a paladin or druid with tanking aspirations at level 70.

Same, I’d like to take my toons with my materials through the dark portal as well.

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Perhaps “we” all do that but it seems your point is “we” will always do that. You might, I won’t. Some games I play once and toss them never to play again. Some I’ll take breaks and revisit once, twice, even three times over several years then toss them never to play again. I’m not sorry I tossed out Baulder’s Gate. and other games. I had done it often enough and never wanted to replay it or wished I had saved the disc

I know what point I’m at in the cycle. I played through BFA to 120 and quit thinking I was done with wow forever. I didn’t buy Shadowlands. I came back for classic because I hadn’t played it for 15 years but I’m done with it forever. I’ll replay BC and Wrath then I truly am done with wow. If Blizzard resets the trilogy I won’t play it again. My guess is I’m not the only one. Each time they restart the trilogy there will likely be diminishing returns. I’ll be the first of that trend.

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Nah. I didn’t spend 1.5 years playing this character just to drop it and be forced to start fresh.

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Fresh or bust

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Progressive or bust

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Did people wait 15 years to play Vanilla just to get forced into TBC again? Not that I’m saying you’re advocating that, but many are.

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It’s not so much about saving them to play again but making money off of them, like I said lol

Did people wait 13 years to play TBC again and play Classic only to lose everything?

Honestly I left classic for retail. Classic is what brought me to retail. I started classic because everyone was on the same level. I literally never played WoW prior to classic.

With that being said, I will only go try out TBC if there is a complete reset server. The botting and gold farming has really taken the charm away from Classic. I had to leave.

Of course retail has the token, but retail isn’t as gold dependent as classic / TBC.

I think the only way to solve this is to allow the people who have a bunch of gold to move with their character and create a few fresh Vanilla or TBC servers. I personally don’t understand why people would want to move on with their characters to a broken server from the start, but let them. I suppose their time invested is hugely important to them.

Edit: GDKP has ruined classic for me as well. Fresh servers would help with this for the first few months or year of TBC. I’d mos likely jump ship once that was rampant again. I would be fine with GDKP if the gold inflation wasn’t a thing. But without buying gold, you aren’t going to win anything in a GDKP.

TLDR: The best time in classic was when everything was fresh. Now it’s a mess. Gold inflation, no one running end dungeons, GDKP, botting all gets worse as a server matures.

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I wont do TBC if it resets. I must bring my Avater to TBC and for sure it is not like break but litterally I quit as I can not do this anymore after losing my stuff; my name, gears, Gold and my beloved CharacS itself. It is me and if it disappears, my life spent on vanila is gone. And time is gold, money! It is my property! Who really can even touch it??

You can just ask for boost u need to pay for TBC as we have spent alot on leveling! Am I wrong?

I do not play again leveling my avata and also can not play from 58. I will play my own beloved 60s charaterS. I am done with TBC if it resets and free boosting wont work out here…Chinese people would also like the progress way! The vast majority of those wont do this if resets.

I’m not sure what you’re asking, or what you’re objecting to.

Are you saying your only reason for playing Classic was in preparation for TBC? I’m not judging that, but keep in mind Blizzard made NO promises TBC would even ever be a thing, let alone that you would progress your Classic characters into it.

But let’s pretend that all TBC servers will be fresh (something that I don’t think will be the case, btw), but even then your Classic characters lose nothing. They’re not deleted; your progress isn’t lost. It’s right there in Classic for all time. It would just be treating TBC the same as Classic: a completely self-contained game with no connection to anything before or after it.

Waiting a long time for something doesn’t mean that that thing should literally never change once you get it back, especially since many people were waiting a long time for the follow up and want to play their character in it.

In this case it means precisely that. That was the entire point of Classic, as laid out by Blizzard: as authentic a recreation of Vanilla as they could create. That’s it. Nothing beyond that.

I’m not arguing against TBC. I think those servers should exist. And I already said it seems very likely you’ll be able to progress your characters into it. The mention of the pre-patch in the leak almost guarantees that.

What I’m objecting to is this illogical argument by many people in this thread that IF TBC servers are all fresh, that you’d lose everything you’ve earned in Classic. That is 100% false. You would lose nothing. Not unless Blizz deletes the Classic servers…which we know would never happen. So people just need to stop making that silly argument, because it only weakens your stance. And it’s a moot point anyway. You’ll be able to progress your characters into TBC. That’s…nearly confirmed.

And I’m sure nothing ever changes, and everything Blizzard has said in the past came to be exactly as it was said.

There’s no reason to leave the current servers as they are, and there’s certainly very good reasons not to force fresh - the surveys alone suggest that. The servers we have are already starting to dwindle in population, on top of a number of servers not really having a large community (either for a particular faction or both). Coupling that with the majority of players who will almost certainly move to TBC - regardless of how they do it - and you have all but dead realms.

Creating one or two Classic only servers and making them move is the sole way that you can make everyone happy i nthe end.

And the, “illogical argument” of “losing everything” if we’re forced fresh is absolutely true. Most of us don’t want to keep playing in P6 forever, as it’s boring. There’s a finite of things to do and most of us have done that already. So, essentially, either we do literally nothing new and remain bored - or we abandon our characters and utterly lose everything we’ve progressed because that is the absolute reality.

I don’t care if you say they’re still there, just stuck in Classic. Being stuck in Classic is being lost.

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I don’t know what to tell you, because that’s all that Blizzard ever promised with Classic. They even said they don’t care if ‘tens of players’ end up playing long-term. Classic was made for a very specific purpose to appeal to a very specific playerbase.

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I don’t think Blizzard ever expected Classic to have anywhere near the level of success it did. And, as I said, things change. Blizzard has stated things countless times in the past as fact but changed their mind later.

They may end up making Classic only realms, and I don’t see why not, but they won’t be any existing realm. Or, possibly one or two dead ones.

There is no such thing as an even playing field. I cannot stress to you enough how far back you’re setting yourself by resetting gold.

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