He has this strange delusion that players arent paying a sub and that players somehow chose how Blizzard is monetizing Classic.
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I really don’t get where this “YOU WANT IT FOR FREE” defense is coming from.
NO ONE said anything about wanting this for free. There is a monthly fee. We expect to be paying that.
So using your logic. You are playing BC for free? Why should you get that for free? Why are you demanding something for free?
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there are 30-40 servers now paying the cost to sub. the vast majority of those people will switch to tbc. you’re asking for some unicorn 1 server that is supported the same way every single classic server is. potentially indefinitely. you can call it delusion but i’m responding to what you’re actually saying. doing it for hundreds of thousands of people is not the same thing as doing it for 3-6k people.
you’re liking tanris’ posts so you’re obviously reading them. that’s essentially what he’s saying without doing it directly. which is stupid.
Hey man. I’m just saying there are plenty of people who want it and who would pay for it. That’s all.
Having this option does NO harm to the BC player base in the slightest.
It’s good for everyone.
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It’s only good for guilds that couldn’t cut it in the original classic servers. It further divides the classic player base for the people that want to continue playing the characters they have invested 2 years of time into. I’m sorry Hakkar hurt your ego, but most people would rather continue playing their p6 geared characters and raiding in TBC then going back to only raiding MC for 6 months.
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he doesn’t seem to understand that if classic wow has say 500k people right now and 490k people switch to tbc that the costs don’t just magically go down. it’s jus that there will be less people paying for things. so unless yall want the token or max level boosts to come into classic at some point the money has to come from somewhere. and that is a box cost. initially blizz didn’t give it because they knew there was enough interest in classic they’d make money either way. that is not the case with the niche that is constant F R E S H. and it’s “delusional” (his word) to think that the money coming in will be the same. the releasing of phases and whatever balancing stuff they’ll have to do don’t just come for free. but assuming it’s around 500k now. and most of them go to tbc. and you want one server. how is one server worth of people supposed to sustain the costs of those changes and etc?
Your argument is completely flawed lol. Progressive fresh servers would be good for the complete whole playerbase of WoW from all the expansions. If they set it up as precedent now, WoW could last even 50 years longer than it would without them.
Blizzard would most likely be interested in this. Cashflow for decades with minimal maintenance work.
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Uh, everyone is paying the same subscription cost. No matter what Blizzard server they’re playing on. So nobody is getting anything for “free”…
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it’s no more flawed than your argument. there are just as many people who rage quit pre-tbc in actual vanilla for the reason dude stated. some people like to invest in things. you just want to recreate the experience over and over again. neither is right or wrong. but they are two things that exist even in just classic vanilla. some people want to play the same stuff forever. some people want to constantly redo things. that’s just the way it is. it’s not that he’s right and you’re wrong. or that you’re right and he’s wrong. but they do ultimately effect each other.
One of the reasons remasters and launching games on additional platforms is so popular. The development work is the VAST majority of the fee to create the game is already spent.
Being able to utilize works that’s already created for additional profit is just a no brainer.
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No, his argument is definitely more flawed than my argument. I’m saying that if Blizzard decides to offer this as an option, they will get more subscribers and be opening themselves to more profit, instead of the NOT offering it and just cutting that potential income off?
Why does it have to be that they don’t do it since some people don’t like it? Can’t it be hey here’s options for everyone, you all pay and choose what you want?
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do you know how many people have said they wanted a separate sub because they don’t want to “pay” for retails development? what i said earlier is that people who play retail are mostly footing the bill for classic. at this point you’re asking for everyone who plays retail, static classic, and tbc to be footing the bill for your constant F R E S H rerolling. lol
No. I don’t know that and never heard that before. Could you please compile a list of topics where people demand this?
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here’s the link to one of the first things that pops up when you search for it
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/we-need-separate-subscription-for-wow-classic/289715/145
and another
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/separate-subscriptions-please/3115
look at the dates. it’s been here since the beginning. and you can see that it’s intended to keep retail meanies out of classic.
People can say that all they want, I don’t care. I’m not one of them. If I choose to play any version of WoW, I’ll pay for my experience in that. WoW development is WoW development… it’d be stupid to divide that in terms of cost/profit for the company. What I’m trying to ask for now is for Blizzard to provide fresh servers on top of the other stuff, because I want to play it. I’d pay my share too, and so would many others I know. We’re not trying to scumbag anyone. We just want to be able to pay for the game that we want.
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That’s an extremely odd stance for someone to have but his reasoning was “because retail players will troll Classic players”
Regardless
Have you ever hosted a server in your life? A Classic WoW server could be hosted for a couple hundred dollars a month and that’s quite literally the entire fee.
A couple HUNDRED dollars. That’s like 30 subs to pull a profit.
Some customer service salary sprinkled in.
100 players subbed for it and you are golden. We are talking over 10k players already playing on a recently launched Private Server. The demand is there.
Now we wait for Blizzard to respond and do the right thing.
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so you’d be okay if it was completely unmoderated and there were no banning of bots and exploits? for it to be the wild west? you seem to think the only cost is hosting the server. it’s not.
Read the edit. Thanks.
Where do these players go when their guild leaders quit in phase 3? They are now stuck on fresh classic realms segregated from the rest of the community on the forever classic realms.
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