that’s because those servers were SHUT DOWN by blizzard. and from looking over private server stuff online they all had plenty of changes and the ability to p2w by buying boosts and gold and gear and mounts etc. so don’t try to lie when even a casual glance at google proves you wrong.
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Many servers never got shut down and are still operating today. Maybe Vanilla servers progressed all the way to Naxx and many TBC servers progressed all the way to Sunwell.
Some servers are pay to win and had cash shops. The really popular ones that really pushed Blizzard to do Classic didnt and tried to recreate the Vanilla and TBC experience and did.
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It’s always obvious when people speak on topics they know nothing about.
So this player never played on a private server but is going to tell us all about how private servers did this and that.
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why would i steal money from blizzard by playing a pirate server? i am not a thief irl why would i be one online? classic exists now. so i am able to play vanilla again whenever i’d like and pay for it. which is what a lot of people have been waiting for. not everyone hates blizz and has a less moral outlook on life. imagine looking down on someone because they don’t steal. 
He clearly hates everything Classic and despite the fact that Classic has no effect on retail he is mad that Classic players are asking for stuff.
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no. i am someone that has played all along. i am also someone that hates PRIVATE SERVERS not classic. those are two separate things. the private server F R E S H thing only existed cuz the servers were constantly shut down. they didn’t reroll fresh vanilla servers for lols in the actual game. if you are asking for classic or vanilla they have static servers and servers were only added if population demanded it. the F R E S H thing is a private server thing only. and if yall want that you should pay for it. or go to a pserver and then pray it isn’t shut down.
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Quick question here. So you plan on playing both TBC classic and classic (uh to keep it simple we’ll call it “classic vanilla”) at the same time by cloning your shaman over. That’s cool, but uh, what will your classic vanilla shaman be doing? Will you be raiding Naxx for a lifetime?
This is why fresh classic vanilla servers are wanted. People want to play through and progress through classic vanilla again from the beginning. Phase1 - Phase6. like 99% of the fun is in the progression, and for those who don’t want to move to TBC why shouldn’t they get to replay Vanilla from the correct patch order?
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I played on private servers because Blizzard was not offering the experience I wanted. If Blizzard stops offering the experience I want, I have qualms about playing on private servers again. I would rather play on a Blizzard server. This has nothing to do about hating Blizzard. This is about the game experience and passion for the game.
And I pay to play Classic with my sub and I guess that is enough money for Blizzard because that is what they chose.
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no. i’ll do the same thing i do in retail. level. gather. play the ah. work on professions. do all sorts of things that you can do in retail as well. but the vibe and economy are different. what appeals to me in it is the same thing that retail does. it is a constant world that i can play in. in retail it constantly updates. while in classic the appeal is that i can spend all my time leveling the characters i want to and doing the things i want to without any fear that my progress will be wiped. i was a dwarf in actual vanilla. i also didn’t do old school pre cata lore master before it changed. so i have tons of stuff i can do and not run out of things. i can also redo all the vanilla ally quests that i didn’t do (nelf stuff mostly) and also redo the stuff i have fond memories of. the thing is you guys just assume everyone wants to rush to the end as soon as possible and then raid naxx until it gets boring and starts again. not everyone does.
Players are saying they want fresh Classic Vanilla, its not something that is being assumed. And no one is saying that you cant keep your character on the era server and play it.
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i am not saying that fresh shouldn’t exist at all. if you guys want your token classic server every year or two then pay a box cost the same as you did in actual vanilla and then redo it as many times as you’re willing to pay for it. my issue is that the amount of profit for the one server will not be enough to make it worthwhile without the box cost. do you see what i’m saying?
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Sure, I’ll give you that not everyone does. But for the people who do, why would it be a problem for Blizzard to also cater to that as well if it’s barely anything extra for them to do? They would get subs from both playerbases, instead of cutting off one side. The “divide” doesn’t need to exist there. Blizzard could do it all, easily. Just offer the options to the players, and players will keep subbing and get to play what they want. I don’t really understand why there’s any need for any hostility here at all lol. We all want to play WoW, just different timelines of it.
The overall profit would outweigh the cost. If they set it up so that every so often there will be a fresh “set” of servers, that will actually keep players playing for a much longer term than if there are only “dead end” servers.
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I could see them probably dropping fresh Classic at some point. Maybe the Zul Aman phase.
the thing though is that you’re asking for it for free. if there was a box cost it wouldn’t be an issue. but if yall can reroll fresh servers indefinitely for free then someone like me will eventually find themselves having to pay the money to transfer to a more populated server or give up on classic for good. what you want is good for you, but bad for anyone who wants to do what i want to do.
I see what you are saying 100%. Now see this.
There are MANY MANY MANY more players interested in Classic FRESH than a single server would support. Easily over 10k on a SINGLE PRIVATE SERVER.
Like I said earlier I know how easy it is to think “No one would ever want that thing” because you yourself don’t want it. That’s a bit of confirmation bias in our own heads and I have been there before.
And let me say this. I would pay $1000 for Classic Fresh EASY + the $15 a month. I am happy to pay for a quality game.
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if you want to pay the box cost over and over again then i have no issues at all with that you’re proposing. i’ve said it at least 3 times so far in this thread already. lol. the issue for me is the barrier to entry. because if people get what you want for free it’ll eventually screw people like me because my static servers would become a barren wasteland. and say i end up with 10 horde and 10 alliance and have to move ALL of them to a new server to even continue playing. while what caused that was free. do you see what my issue is?
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This is the thing that gets me. You are against a SINGLE Classic WoW FRESH server because of “the costs to run the server” but you are ok with MULTIPLE PERMANENT PHASE 6 SERVERS.
Sorry man. Holes in your defense.
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Blizzard themselves chose not to have a “box cost”. If Blizzard thought they needed a “box cost” to pay for something I am sure there would be a cost. Blizzard clearly has no problems charging players for things. Players cant pay for something that doesnt exist.
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Oh, I didn’t say anything about free anywhere, so let me clarify this. I would be willing to pay for the game that I want to play. At this point the ball is in Blizzard’s court for whether or not they want to offer it.
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no because there’s tons of people who want a static server. and came back to classic specifically because they want to stay in naxx gear forever. do you even read the forums outside of F R E S H posts? people left before actual real tbc was released because they felt their time/energy was wasted when tbc was released. those are the types of people who wanted classic just as much as the constantly redoing things people. lots of people have said they won’t even do tbc because it’s a full reset.