I don't care about having to purchase Classic (one-time fee) or not.
I don't really care what the subscription fee is; I'm pretty sure it's not going to be more than $15 for Classic.
But please, Blizzard, don't bundle Classic for free with Live. Some of us aren't interested in playing live, will never be interested in playing live, and would prefer the character names we wanted weren't grabbed by retail players who just wanted to poke their heads in and yell LOL WHY ARE YOU PLAYING AN OLD GAME WHAT"S WRONG WITH YOU!!!111?
Give Live players a discount if you want. Make paying for either Classic or Retail cost $15/month but paying for both of them cost only $20. Or make them entirely separate, such that paying for both of them costs $30. Or make Classic cheaper because it's not what you care about. Just don't offer Classic free with a Retail subscription.
100% agreed
10/24/2018 02:06 PMPosted by NaryaI don't care about having to purchase Classic (one-time fee) or not.
I don't really care what the subscription fee is; I'm pretty sure it's not going to be more than $15 for Classic.
But please, Blizzard, don't bundle Classic for free with Live. Some of us aren't interested in playing live, will never be interested in playing live, and would prefer the character names we wanted weren't grabbed by retail players who just wanted to poke their heads in and yell LOL WHY ARE YOU PLAYING AN OLD GAME WHAT"S WRONG WITH YOU!!!111?
Give Live players a discount if you want. Make paying for either Classic or Retail cost $15/month but paying for both of them cost only $20. Or make them entirely separate, such that paying for both of them costs $30. Or make Classic cheaper because it's not what you care about. Just don't offer Classic free with a Retail subscription.
wtf is wrong with you?
Won't happen. Why? Because it creates a barrier to marketing. It further frustrates customers who won't be willing to pay for 2 subs and wish to play both. It will also frustrate those who are willing, but would rather not.
Finally, I vote no as you have no compelling arguement. You are just borrowing trouble out of fear.
Finally, I vote no as you have no compelling arguement. You are just borrowing trouble out of fear.
I too would like a separate sub to minimize the trolling and spam.
My knee jerk reaction is to say have it be separate but then I think.... the more people who play... the more classic wow succeeds...the more of a chance they run with this system. Yeah we will get trolls but they will be dealt with soon enough. Plus its not like trolls are going to take the time to level to actually do any damage.
It would be nice to keep out some of the riffraff but I expect the retail sub to include access to Classic.
10/24/2018 02:17 PMPosted by NichoMy knee jerk reaction is to say have it be separate but then I think.... the more people who play... the more classic wow succeeds...the more of a chance they run with this system.
More chance to ruin this system, more chance to ruin gameplay, more chance to create void realms because toruists, etc...
No.
I'm not the only one who has proposed the idea, but what I would rather see them do is create free realms and "premium" realms.
Free realms would have no subscription fee at all. Great for someone to just try it out. Great for a Retail player to dabble in their content drought or off-time. Great for attracting pserver players who actually do only play because it is free. Great for people who don't see a value in paying for a 15-year-old game.
Premium realms would have a normal subscription fee (whether they decide it's the full US$15 or a lower amount like US$10 or US$5). Great for those who feel a sub results in players who feel more committed to the game, or reduces the number who would play just to troll.
Free realms would have no subscription fee at all. Great for someone to just try it out. Great for a Retail player to dabble in their content drought or off-time. Great for attracting pserver players who actually do only play because it is free. Great for people who don't see a value in paying for a 15-year-old game.
Premium realms would have a normal subscription fee (whether they decide it's the full US$15 or a lower amount like US$10 or US$5). Great for those who feel a sub results in players who feel more committed to the game, or reduces the number who would play just to troll.
I wonder how fast I can log into Classic and Gank your name?
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I too would like separate subs, but my spin is slightly different. What about $15 US for either Classic or Live. OR $20 US for access to both.
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If you're scared current wow players might come into classic, might I suggest you understand if they do add a separate subscription price, that people will most likely just buy a token to get 15 in their balance to get on and play it for a month?
Nothing will stop people from trying classic out, no matter how much you want daddy Blizzard to make more money.
Nothing will stop people from trying classic out, no matter how much you want daddy Blizzard to make more money.
10/24/2018 02:17 PMPosted by NichoMy knee jerk reaction is to say have it be separate but then I think.... the more people who play... the more classic wow succeeds...the more of a chance they run with this system. Yeah we will get trolls but they will be dealt with soon enough. Plus its not like trolls are going to take the time to level to actually do any damage.
But then they will be able to troll our forums requesting changes.
Anyone that truly loves vanilla will have no problem paying for the game and a sub. Could honestly care less about everyone else. I would rather play with people that appreciate the game.
Give BFA players a separate trial server where they can quit after an hour. We all know 99% of them wont make it past lv5 anyway.
Give BFA players a separate trial server where they can quit after an hour. We all know 99% of them wont make it past lv5 anyway.
10/24/2018 02:14 PMPosted by MedeoanWon't happen. Why? Because it creates a barrier to marketing. It further frustrates customers who won't be willing to pay for 2 subs and wish to play both. It will also frustrate those who are willing, but would rather not.
But it's wonderful for demographics. Two separate subs allows them to see how much overlap occurs between Classic and retail, and whether the groups that only play one or the other are larger than the overlap crowd. Those numbers get muddied when Classic is automatically bundled onto live.
10/24/2018 02:39 PMPosted by EilethaluaI'm not the only one who has proposed the idea, but what I would rather see them do is create free realms and "premium" realms.
Free realms would have no subscription fee at all. Great for someone to just try it out. Great for a Retail player to dabble in their content drought or off-time. Great for attracting pserver players who actually do only play because it is free. Great for people who don't see a value in paying for a 15-year-old game.
Premium realms would have a normal subscription fee (whether they decide it's the full US$15 or a lower amount like US$10 or US$5). Great for those who feel a sub results in players who feel more committed to the game, or reduces the number who would play just to troll.
What differences would there be between them? Would it be just a matter of paying to know that no one else on the realm didn't pay?
I don't think Blizzard would go for that; they'll want money from everyone playing Classic.
10/24/2018 02:55 PMPosted by KierecoIf you're scared current wow players might come into classic, might I suggest you understand if they do add a separate subscription price, that people will most likely just buy a token to get 15 in their balance to get on and play it for a month?
Sure. Those'll be people who want to try Classic, which is wonderful. Or people who want to spend BFA gold on trolling, whatever. Not people who see no reason not to troll since they can do it effortlessly for free.
10/24/2018 03:02 PMPosted by Anaramth10/24/2018 02:14 PMPosted by MedeoanWon't happen. Why? Because it creates a barrier to marketing. It further frustrates customers who won't be willing to pay for 2 subs and wish to play both. It will also frustrate those who are willing, but would rather not.
But it's wonderful for demographics. Two separate subs allows them to see how much overlap occurs between Classic and retail, and whether the groups that only play one or the other are larger than the overlap crowd. Those numbers get muddied when Classic is automatically bundled onto live.
You think Blizzard wouldn't be able to do this without charging separate subscriptions?
No sub. Buy to play as there is no new content or content changes.
I’m confused why not have a single sub for both, you can always choose not to play live. As someone who’s been playing since 2004 I’d be less inclined to replay vinillia if it requires another $15/mo. And or make it free for everyone which could bring some new folks into the wow family which is never a bad thing.