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Reroll on a different server makes sense for the folks who want fresh TBC servers. OP wants fresh Vanilla classic servers which is pretty guaranteed to happen.

There honestly isn’t that many good reasons for fresh TBC servers at the moment. The botters/ economy/ min-maxers issues will return with these servers as well. I understand the want to be part of the “first wave” of players on a server, but you have options to do that with TBC or just wait till they make fresh vanilla servers.

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it’s more likely that they’ll release new tbc servers if there’s a demand for them. specifically because it’s new, supported content. classic has had it’s run. and people would be silly to relevel in vanilla classic when tbc classic will have an exp boost. etc.

Just watch and see. There will be a new nostalrius soon and then we’re going to be dealing with history repeating itself. Either that or blizzard will do the sensible thing financially and PR-related which is to provide a low-overhead solution.

Also, forever p6 classic wow is not the same game. Not even close. That won’t hold up to the classic community as a viable alternative.

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I dont understand why a delay would help with this. I would argue that you really only need about 3k active players to have a solid Vanilla or TBC server and that you really only need that 1 server to have a good experience.

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I believe this was the rational used for years to dismiss Blizzard doing Classic Vanilla. I didnt get it then, dont get it now.

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That’s not how it works. The player base is already split. It’s why classic exists in the first place. There are a lot of people who won’t play TBC even if it were the only existing iteration of wow.

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how many times should blizz be strong armed into doing this? over and over and over since yall threaten to go back to pservers if you don’t get exactly what you want every single time? nah, that would be irrational. and then it would open the flood gates for them to have to waste more time and more money for every version of classic forever. we assume they’ll stop at wrath but if they go to MoP for instance and then you have vanilla and that many different classic communities all throwing a tantrum demanding F R E S H or we’ll go back to stealing? that’s a pandoras box i doubt blizz wants to open. it isn’t just about the minuscule vanilla population. it sets a precedence and expectation for anything after it.

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It’s not strong arming it’s just supply and demand. If there is demand and no supply there will be screeching until there is a supply. Pandora’s box is already open and with blizzard supporting WC3 (lol) and Diablo 2 resurrected it’s clear their business model now has the precedent set that classic experiences are going to be supported.

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you got the classic experience for vanilla already. what you’re asking for is constant refreshing of that experience over and over and over again because as you said staying in p6 is not acceptable. it would be one thing if yall had a box cost you had to pay each time so blizz was guaranteed x amount of money regardless of when you stopped playing (and i remember very clearly that pserver people were spamming the forums with demands for fresh even pre-AQ) but they didn’t do that. i’d support it if yall had a box cost each time. because every time everyone else gets what they want they have to pay for it. and lots of you guys whined that you had to pay at all and that it should just be free. and i can pull up posts if you want to disagree with that. even people who said you should only have to pay $5 since it’s outdated content.

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I would happily pay for fresh

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i have been looking from a “will this make money” perspective. i have no issues if you guys want to buy vanilla every couple of years and play it indefinitely. but my issue is with the people who demand it without thoughts to what it costs blizzard. you know what i mean?

You do realize that players are paying subs to play Classic right? And its not like Blizzard is going to be paying to develop Classic over again every time right? There is no way it costs Blizzard any significant amount of money to host 1 Vanilla server in a region.

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This. 100%.

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do you think the buffs and nerfs and them putting effort into releasing phases and all of that have been free? that they pay no one at all? those things cost money. and people who play retail have already mostly been the ones paying for that for yall. you have a few hundred thousand tops. i saw something that said the population for classic overall was about that. given the server amounts and the server limitations it can’t be more than that cuz given you guys dont have sharding etc or servers as large as ours it’s not physically possible. and there is no reason to do a roll out the same way for only one server. that would be an even bigger money pit obviously.

They havent done any noteable buffs or nerfs over Classic. At this point all the development of Classic Vanilla is done. If Blizzard rereleased Classic Vanilla the cost to them would be almost entirely in server hosting. And paying someone to hit the button to switch phases. Classic has to be huge money for them with almost 0 investment. If it wasnt we wouldnt be getting TBC.

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the pvp stuff just by itself proves that a huge lie. and if you think people would just be okay with blizz releasing phases at random without changing anything (which they’ve done now and are doing for tbc) you’re naive at best. no one is gonna want to play on one server that nothing changes except that it gets a new tier of content every few months. classic has show that to not be true at all, already. so you can say “at this point all the development of classic vanilla is done” and then realize it was before classic even came out and it didn’t stop any crying or the demands for changes to be made.

Blizzard already spent time on “developing” the classic template. Now that they’ve done that, it would actually be wasted resources if they DIDN’T use it over and over again! Now that they have the work done, just provide fresh servers for continuous play as an option, while those who don’t want that option can play on the other servers.

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LOL

This is exactly what private servers did and people rerolled every time to the new server.

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they are. it’s called tbc classic. they’re using what they’ve learned to make them even more money. :wink:

also i’ve never said i was playing tbc and not classic ever again. i am someone who is going to be playing both and paying to clone my shaman to be used in both. just fyi.

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Nobody said to not do TBC classic lol. We are saying that they should ALSO release fresh vanilla servers as well!

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