They are timegated appropriately. World first will be doing split runs, at least with the druids, pallies, and monks, and everybody else can wait a few weeks. Or they can work it out with alts of the same classes in their own guilds if it’s that important.
you have a vastly, vastly different (and incorrect) vision of history than I do .
the casual base absolutely lobbied for the removal of master loot, and they threw a giant party when it happened, and rubbed it in the faces of people who preferred it for weeks.
Brewa’s point is a good one.
“you don’t want to do lfr? don’t”
“Get rid of master loot because I don’t have the self restraint to not join a group that uses it”
^^^ same people
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I missed WoW and the elitists that don’t want casuals to have anything.
Where would we be without such fine people
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I don’t care if you have set pieces in lfr
but I don’t want there to be any reason for me to do lfr
I think the set gear dropping in m+ will go a long way to alleviating the issue though. and be good for people who don’t want to raid at all.
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So you’d rather have 1 chance at tier pieces per week instead of 2?
I’d love for them to put the tier sets in mythic+ but I don’t see that happening
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I hate LFR with the fires of a thousand suns, so yes (I should add to this: I hate it for me, so I don’t do it. if you enjoy it, that’s cool and I’m glad there’s content you like doing)
didn’t they say they were? I’ll have to go check
edit:
looks like it comes from the vault, but even for m+ rows (and I assume PVP)
However, at some unannounced point in Patch 9.2, players will be able to craft Tier Sets on any piece of gear with the Creation Catalyst which will help with bad luck protection. In addition, Tier Sets items can drop from the Great Vault from all forms of content.
Tier dropping as bonus loot in raid is also an extremely good change but it has yet to be confirmed if this is an intended thing or a bug yet.
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This might blow your mind…
I feel like if people don’t want to run LFR, they shouldn’t. LFR isn’t mandatory, and anyone who thinks it is should probably take a step away from the game.
I also feel like Master Loot should be brought back because it helps guilds who are working together as a team trying to progress as fast as they can through the raid.
That “same people” thing… it’s in your head.
The ~50 people I play the game with don’t care about LFR, they don’t feel forced into doing LFR, and they would also like to see Master Loot brought back because of how stupid Personal Loot is.
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It not dropping in LFR is reducing your odds by a full raids worth of drop chances each week. If these hardcore players are truly so hardcore they should be begging blizzard to increase their odds at getting tier pieces the second LFR drops.
People have been begging for alternate sources for tier since they were removed from vendors after cata. They finally listened since 9.2 you can get tier from m+, PvP, vault from all 3 contents and raid plus the unconfirmed bonus drop from bosses that drop tier. Tier won’t be near as annoying to acquire like it was in the past.
I’d still prefer a vendor but this is the best it has been since cata.
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Are you sure about this? Historically, set bonuses were ~5% with a higher weighting towards completing the 4pc bonus.
You could be right about the 272 stat stick being better than the 226 piece that fulfils a 4pc bonus but I wouldn’t discount the power of the bonus.
Which makes you NOT the group of people that quote is about.
Of course lfr should drop tier
This game needs more rewards for activities not less
Why wouldn’t we make most players happy? Only a minority of players do regular raiding
Game is paid to entertain, not give the least rewards possible.
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You’re wasting your time with that one. They are a massively biased contrarian.
If players don’t raid, why would they be “forced” to run LFR for tier pieces? If you want the tier gear, you choose to run the content, Blizzard isn’t forcing you to do anything, it’s an active choice on the player.
LFR dropped tier in the 1 cata raid that had it (dragon soul, there was also an exploit that tier), MoP, and Legion. There was no tier in BFA, and in warlords you had a differnet set bonus that was unique to role, not class or spec (all the casters got some variation of 2set: + int, 4set: a proc that does damage). there were no interesting trinkets in LFR, just mainstat + secondary statsticks. Personally, I think we should return to the WoD LFR loot system.
No! No,no aaaaaannnnnnnd NO!
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Would you object if it was a recolor of the normal set instead of a different mog set?
EDIT: you don’t seem to have done any sanctum at all, other than for that 1 quest to kill sylvanas, so why do you care?
I think you’re missing the point of my post.
Annastasi is saying both quotes are from the same type of person, which they aren’t. Because I do think one of them, but don’t think the other one. They were saying if you think one, you inherently think the other, which isn’t true at all.
I know I’m not in the group of people that quote is about, because I don’t think both of those things. I don’t think very many people think both of those things. That was the point of my post. 
The point of that quote is that the anti-ml folks all swore that they couldn’t possibly just avoid groups/guilds using ML and they generally also say “nobody’s forcing you to do LFR for X reward”
If you don’t agree with the ML part, that quotes not about you.