For those who think dragon flying sucks

I’d be fine with a dangerous world where even flying isn’t safe by any means…DF isn’t that unless you find yourself in a few endgame zones where you can be shot down.

Problem is the world is more annoying than dangerous. Tree branches are made out of the strongest of metals considering I’m zipping along at mach a bajillion and slam headfirst into it and come to a dead stop without it budging in the slightest. Oh this tiny rock exists? Let’s clip that and the game thinks I’m coming to a dead stop.

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Yeah I can agree with that. A full flying overhaul would require some changes with the ground world too. I’d personally take the scuffed parts with the dragon riding over the old system, but that’s just me.

If they wanted to get super fancy, they could divide different mounts up with different types of flight and different physics. E.g., dragons, gryphons, and similar gliding-wing creatures could work like Dragon Riding. Flying disks/carpets, insects, and the like could work much like “regular” flying, with no energy limits and vertical flight, but much lower top speed. Rockets and harvesters and other similar mounts could work like Dragon Riding, with higher energy and top speed but much wider turn radius. Maybe there are other possibilities that could work.

I am enjoying it, I don’t need to use my glider enchant (engineer) at all, just summon the dragon and I can go further, up and down, and my time isn’t as limited in the air. This is a great plan and allows for better movement around the zone than a glider since we don’t have regular flying. I also LOVE the passenger option

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Not true I can get from the ground to anywhere once you get all glpyphs its very easy

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:rofl: Life, the Universe and Everything :rofl:

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Its not that great. And definitely not worth being the selling point of the new expac. But im just happy with new content.

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Honestly this is how flying should have been from the start. The only reason some are upset is because they are comparing it to the set it and forget it flying we’ve had for years.

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I unlocked all 48 glyphs yesterday, and it definitely makes it better, BUT:

I will still have a use for regular flying when it becomes available.

I want to be able to hover, and maneuver better in tight areas without getting knocked out of the sky if I happen to clip something.

I want to be able to gather without having to do an abrupt u-turn to grab a node I almost didn’t notice because i was going too fast.

If I need to get from A to B with speed, dragon riding is definitely it.

If I want utility, my hover disk is going to be much more useful.

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I like DF when its not lagging and impossible to connect

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Gimped dragons and gimped flying…

As long as they implement actual flying sometime this expansion (not at the end), then it’s tolerable.

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Or you can go and collect all the glyphs and take off from just about anywhere and still have enough vigor to make it anywhere you want. It’s really that simple. Using skyward ascent twice in a row at the right time will actually refill one of the vigor bubbles, but you have to time it.

Don’t tell me what to do with my flaps.

Yep and it’s the only feature this expansion another dud of an expansion.

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Nah, it f***ing sucks.

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No, it’s just bad game design. It’s fun when it comes to the time trials and racing as a minigame, but as a core game mechanic it’s terrible.

They should have just said “you can’t use your normal flying mounts at first but we’re giving you a customizable dragon mount to use for starting off” and that would have been fine.

The mount is cool. The mechanics are what people hate.

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I disagree.

I played on the beta for a couple months and still used Dragonriding to get everywhere instead of flight points.

The main issue is speed.

I could Dragonride from Valdrakken to anywhere in Dragon Isles in under 2 minutes. It’s much faster than taking a flight point. And the travel time is so short it never felt like I’d be gaining anything by going AFK while traveling to a flight point.

If I want to get to the Dragonbane Keep event, a rare elite world mob, a dungeon entrance, or a Hunt, I might as well just Dragonride. Nothing is faster.

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It’s not about speed it’s the fact that you have to start from a high point and go down to get that speed and maintain it in a meaningful way. If you’re down low and trying to go up high? You’re boned.

Speed isn’t the problem it’s the verticality of the map vs. how quickly you lose momentum if you have to make even a slight upward incline to get where you’re going, never mind a steep one.

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You have to do it in steps if you’re trying to go completely vertical without much lateral movement. Once you get 6 vigor, you can push up decently by doing that, but if you’re trying to get to a mountaintop (or something), you will need to stage it. Alternatively, you fly laterally, and then down, and then straight up, and then just shy of level enough to build speed, and then up again, and so on, like a staircase, but you need to move laterally to do that. I did that a lot when I was getting the glyphs, many of which are quite high.

This is not accurate.

With fully-ugpraded dragonriding it’s possible to fly anywhere in Dragon Isles without landing and without dropping below max speed buff. It’s even possible to fly from sea level to the skybox ceiling above the tallest mountain in Thaldraszus this way.

The trick is to keep your flight path angled slightly down, then hit “Ascend” (press the spacebar), to go vertical. Keep yourself angled up for several seconds, then just before you lose speed, pitch down so you are angled slightly down towards the ground.

If done properly, you’ll gain a ton of altitude without your speed dropping. And since you regen Vigor at the rate of 1 every 5 seconds while going max speed, the vigor you spent to Ascend regenerates almost instantly.

If you have multiple Vigor available and need to rise a steep inclne, you can press Ascend repeatedly with a 3-second gap between presses. With 6 vigor this is enough to shoot you over most mountains. Then pitch down to regenerate vigor using the above technique. Once vigor has regenned, you can then continue rising.

It is possible to stay aloft indefinitely and to get to any altitude using this technique.

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