Also, bragging rights. You guys know it isn’t just the rewarding feel you get from completing challenging content. You want to gloat about how you have something while others don’t.
Absolutely. 30-45 days of doing the content I actually enjoy to get a piece of heroic loot. Sign me up.
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No complaining about PVP. Just saying there’s a reason for everyone to have equal gear in this game.
So 6ish items per raid tier if you log in every single day for 6 months straight.
Blizz get on it.
Equal gear for equal levels of content. Of course you won’t have better gear if all you do is WQ’s. The other guy who is owning in pvp has put in a lot more time in gearing, so he does deserve it (the gear he worked for*), imo.
The amount of people who aren’t good enough at this game and try hards pretending mythic raiding is hard is the reason I don’t mythic raid. It’s easy but the game is not made for slow people.
All those “research” can be summed up in 10mins and apply a cookie cutter spec and rotation with addons. 0 effort needed, just import a profile from a min-maxer.
I am one player who enjoy raiding without reward other than the kill and challenge itself.
I’m all for making the raids harder than the gear they provide. The raid need to be hard, gear should just help a little. Skill cannot be given to players and needs to be learned. Gear is just a convenience.
Look at this thinly veiled passive aggressive attempt at shaming PvPers when you don’t even understand why the community is upset.
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Yeah, that sounds great.
Please do.
I don’t want to receive it in the mail. I want to buy them with honor/conquest/arena points.
Would that be earning it, or is mythic raiding the only way to earn gear?
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As originally announced, it sounded very much like horrific visions 2.0. Later they decided to turn it into a mandatory currency-dispensing system for everybody, which would mean it would have to be easy enough for casuals to get their mats to craft the legendaries they needed to play.
But also, on release of 8.3 content it was clear that they thought this would keep everybody busy until shadowlands was released. 8.3 turned out to be way less popular than projected. While some found it a fun challenge and thrived on it, most players eventually did it less than they originally planned to or not at all. They got cloaks on fewer alts than they were planning to or none, and leveled up hardly any or none.
People who had come back to check out the hype left again almost immediately.
So an expansion gated by content that starts hard and gets infinitely harder would have made shadowlands dead on launch.
I think they should have made Torghast hard but optional, and found a different way to dispense mats. But devs like one size fits all solutions even if they don’t fit anybody particularly well.
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I don’t know why people assume this is the request. I agree with you, give more means to the end.
If this was true more people would mythic raid since it’s so “easy”. Instead they come to the forums complaining about wanting high end rewards for simple WQ’s instead of doing the mythic raids themselves.
Edit: Mythic raids and high keys are difficult. That isn’t a bad thing to say. It’s an accomplishment to complete them in WoW. It’s a good thing for people to feel excited and a sense of self accomplishment from completing them.
From my experience, people who can’t mythic raid, won’t be able to clear mythic even with mythic gear level.
So just give them access to the gear.
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Uuuuh, what? You mean mythic dungeons? If they’re geared with mythic raid gear then that means they are completing mythic raids (or higher keys, I guess).
What is actually posted in the forum:
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Casuals are already getting gear upgrades. So I guess there isn’t a problem then. 
And yet we still see responses like those.
They made it harder for new alts to gear up in the prepatch. Are you happy now?
The best gear for the only the hardest content is something that is specifically baked into the wow gaming culture. It’s a dying concept. We know this because companies that have taken it to the extreme have failed and gone bust.
A level playing field with those who have skill being the winners continues to trump it.
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I’m saying that some casuals wouldn’t be able to clear mythic raids even with a full set of mythic gear handed to them beforehand.
But players would appreciate the occasional mythic upgrade for participating in the videogame.
And don’t get me started on how much Alts would benefit from this.
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Good point. I suppose for me I think of people whose lives don’t allow for a stable commitment to a raid group and thus have to do pugs and lfr, or maybe they had to sit out a tier or two and are trying to get back into things.
As someone who came back a few months ago after 7 years absence, the absolute impossibility of winning a pvp fight or extreme difficulty of soloing current rares without ilvl in the mid 400’s (round about ilvl 100 now) was jarring. If Blizz hadn’t put in mechanisms to help me gear up outside of raids I’d never have had the patience to really get back into the game.
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