I mean this is just dumb. Nothing about conduit energy is meaningful or positive. It’s only good for people who don’t have the capacity to know what more than one build does.
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Well in that case anyone who wants to play the same class in different covenants can make a fresh alt and use a different spec on that alt 
One of the main arguments I’ve read as for why people want the ripcord pulled is the time investment and now you tell me when others don’t want it pulled because of time investment it’s different? Nah, not convincing.
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I respect your opinion, and disagree.
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There is no increased time investment if covenants were unlocked unless you want there to be. The people that don’t want to won’t.
Having less options is bad. Forcing your inability to play more than one build is bad.
Your strawman has no place here. The “time investment” has nothing to do with why we want it pulled.
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Well you don’t have to switch covenants either - you just want to.
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…obviously. what kind of post is this?
I want to have fun.
Are you just trolling?
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Nobody is forcing you to do anything. I have a shaman that I switch back and forth between Enh and Resto pretty commonly. Most of the time I have a healing potency conduit that doesn’t work for Enh. Guess what, it’s fine.
It’s fine for you and what you want to do in game.
That’s obviously very different than what I want to do (and have always been able to do in every other iteration of this game).
The sooner you understand not everyone likes to play the same way as you, the better. The version of the game I want offers more choice… the version you want forces everyone to make as few choices as you.
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Why is your wanting or not wanting something more important than others’?
I told you from the beginning that this thread won’t lead to anything cause there isn’t really a compromise here (other than - imo - small stuff like conduit energy) and its just what you prefer/want vs. what others prefer/want. There’s no objective right or wrong and neither of the sides even makes the decision of how covenants will or will not be changed.
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Well I can list about 10 things I wish the devs would change just for me, but guess what, it’s fine.
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What I want doesn’t prevent them from doing what they want. What you want prevents me from doing what I want. Use your brain.
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They’re resto and guardians. My guild has no room for tanks or healers atm (we actually have too many applying every week).
I have to play Kyrian or NF as boomie.
You are not asking a question in good faith and the phrasing is such that you are only looking for one exact answer with which you’ll “squash” with logic that can’t be countered.
You already know the answers. You don’t like or approve of them, but that is your problem to overcome.
It’s also amusing you think it is “just” 4 people…again an appeal to minimalize your opponents and act like you are in the super majority already. Fact is Blizzard is the sole decider of how difficult or easy covenant swapping is and will be. Quit blaming a portion of the playerbase who approves of their current decision.
To answer your biased and loaded question though, I happen to think that the long term pros outweigh the cons. I am of the strong opinion that WoW has opened a Pandora’s Box and made no effective attempts to close it and the harm it has brought to the game is nearly insurmountable…and that harm is the catering and ease of min max toxic mindsets.
For a game as easy and simple as WoW, the community has long since developed a very disgusting attitude towards their own fellow players and seeks every tiny detail to exclude them from content under the guise of not being good enough before someone has the chance to prove otherwise.
The fact is no facet of the game truly requires a 100% mathematically played character to complete any level of content…especially in heroic raids and below and/or mythic+ 15 and below and while it is undeniable that there is inbalance in various specs/covenants, none are absolutely so badly broken that is unviable.
But the community refuses to see it that way. Gear, talents, covenants…everything is simmed to the smallest detail and anything that isn’t maximumly optimal is deemed utter worthless trash and that kind of mindset is supported when those choices are made easy to change.
Blizzard restricting covenants so hard is a first attempt to show the playerbase that you DON’T have to be fully optimized at any given moment to succeed. Just like you can wear gear that isn’t perfectly optimized per the almighty simulations and still do great output, or pick niche talents that still net you great output, so too can you pick a covenant that is asthetically appealing to you or has an ability you personally like and still do the vast majority of content just fine…that the difference between the simulated “best” choice and your choice isn’t the literal make or break point for your group’s overall success or failure. I’d love to see a world with more “bad spec” players running around and/or people picking more “off” talents or covenants and such…I have to imagine Blizzard feels the same. How lame to them it must feel to develop such a litant of spells and effects just for the playerbase to ignore the majority of them because some glorified Excel spreadsheet says so.
In conclusion, “I” personally don’t think covenants should have had power attached to them, but I respect what Blizzard is trying to do (futile as I fear it will ultimately be) and say to them to keep the course.
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The feedback about covenants has been overwhelmingly one sided. It isn’t just me. And what we want offers more choice to everyone. What you want limits everyone to the limited amount of choices that you dont want to be bothered to make.
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Sure does, it encourages players like you to make a choice and deal with it. I enjoy that. I want everyone to have to deal with the same meaningful choices that I have to deal with. Why are you trying to take that away from me?
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Try to stay polite please. I am too.
Again, neither I nor you nor anyone except blizzard decided how covenants were implemented.
Unfortunately this argument falls flat on its face when I want to move off of my BIS covenants so I can play and enjoy the less-optimal ones more freely. But I can’t do that due to this spiteful philosophy.
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Flying 2.0. 9.1 will be dead in the water.
If you’re paying your sub to worry about what I’m doing, you’ve got issues.
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I honestly hope that Blizzard makes expansion-long impactful choices that we must make starting next expansion. Perhaps choices that not only have impacts on game play but also story and character progression.
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