That’s… an interesting opinion.
This is the post this thread needed.
I’d think it should be named “For all of us that have no say in the direction of the game”
Firstly, people have said that multiple times in this thread as well as suggesting the only reason I’d want to swap is to “meta slave”, that it’s only to “chase meaningless 1% increases that dont matter”, and have even told me to quit the game because of this feedback.
Secondly, there is still no lore reason why the abilities cannot be more freely unlocked. Nobody is asking to be part of multiple factions at the same time. THAT would have lore implications.
But there is no logical reason why the covenant abilities cannot be used more freely. We already dip into the powers of each covenant in various other ways, we utilize their strength in each of the zones, and obviously the raid is going to havr us doing the same to a bigger degree.
So no, that isn’t being ignored.
I mean, I’d love to be able to change weekly, and yes, I want to do it because of the various affixes on Mythic+ dungeons. I like the RP aspects of WoW, but when it comes to challenge modes, RP be damned.
Considering the OP has 80 upvotes and the first post supporting there being no ripcord has less than 1/6th that many…
And then looking at the activity of the original pull the ripcord thread, which even that is skewed because these are the most causal oriented forums for WoW that has the most likely audience that would dislike worrying about builds…
Not sure this is it cheif
btw i dont really have an opinion i just wanted to say that for laughs.
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The biggest problem for me is the inability to swap mid week without having to plan it in an annoying and cumbersome way, while then not being able to swap back within another 2 lockouts.
The time gating is extremely annoying. I’d rather farm up a bloody currency that lets you swap.
I love you.
Yeah, I feel like you should just be able to switch once a week. That’d be gucci
Let me farm up my Kyrian Bucks so I can be one thing for raid and then test something else in other content you know?!
what a lousy interview from ion as usual.
Yeah, and stopping Kil’jaeden helped both the Aldor and Scryers too, just like stopping the Lich King helped both Alliance and Horde. You can have different factions stay different even when they ultimately have the same objectives.
Because working together doesn’t mean they’re all becoming one homogenous entity.
Maybe in 9.3, we might get all 4 covenant abilities for our class as a final hurrah, or can pick a soulbind from each. But removing any aspect of meaningful choice from the system this early in the expansion is not something they’re going to do. Even in Ion’s interview today with Preach he reiterated the desire for meaningful choice and tradeoffs with covenants.
“I don’t like it, waaah” does not make it a bad answer, just an answer you don’t like.
Yeah, all the happy people and designers go to the forums, there’s no outsized presence of vocal minority complainers here at all.
Isn’t this exactly how you are handling my every response to your “point”? Acting as though my response is just “waaah”? If you’re dismissive of me why would I not be dismissive of you?
Neither does unlocking the use of the abilities and builds. I’m not trying to become a Necrolord Venthyr Night Fae Kyrian Warlock. I just want access to 75% more of the game. I don’t care if the lore has me sticking to a singular covenant. It’s the gameplay I care about.
Acting as if that would somehow blend them all together doesn’t make much sense.
Meaning is subjective. This system doesn’t mean anything to me. All I care about is the gameplay. And if the abilities are the ONLY meaning to the system, it’s an even worse system than we thought.
If you care about the RP, you should care about the RP. Not whether or not people you will never interact with get to use x or y ability.
This was in direct response to the idea that “only four people want unlocked covenants.” Calm down.
He also said many of the restrictive systems need work and are very imperfect.
No it simply stood as an argument to show that you dont NEED to be NF to clear content. Only 3 boomkins that are necro still managed to clear it, meaning, you dont need to be NF. It it harder? Yes. Are the numbers lower? Yes. Did bringing a necro boomy offer a different kind of utility? Also yes.
I wish people would stop saying the are cov locked because if it were actually true, there wouldnt be a single off meta cov in any content. Unless of course what they are saying is “im not good enough at my class/spec that i need to give myself the largest advantage to clear content, even if i dont enjoy it”.
Enjoyment of game > what the meta says, especially when you dont enjoy doing what the meta says.
You do understand that an extremely large portion of the player base enjoys playing the good builds, getting the good items, and playing the good specs right? It isn’t some grueling thing to play things that are good. It’s largely more enjoyable because it opens up more of the game.
Your enjoyment is just different. It isn’t greater than.
TO be honest that is what I’ve been saying . Open up the abilities mainly the class ones and let people be able to use any of the covenant abilities for their class so it fits either the spec or content they are doing and just have a conduit that will make them work with any soul bind from a person’s chosen covenant .
For those that just like the rp , they don’t have to change .
For those that think rp and game play are equally important it would give them a win/win
WHat if people find maxing their dps to be fun ?
I was watching the Preach interview and came to that conclusion.
Which is… REALLY weird. Like… his argument is and always has been ‘we at Blizzard see metrics you don’t and are 100% certain this is the right way to develop the game’.
Fair but… I can’t think of another game dev who approaches things like this. Most devs WANT to make their players happy. Games aren’t the army or some legally binding set of laws. They’re there to be enjoyed by the audience. If the audience isn’t happy, most sane developers would adjust their product.
It’s kind of like food - if a restaurant produced unappetizing food and started getting bad reviews/declines in customers coming in… they’d fire the chefs and revise the menu. Yet Blizzard seem to double down on going ‘we’re right, you’re wrong’.
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There is a whole thread on it that has been going since before SL launched .
There are way more then 4 people and I see more and more asking for it since SL launched.
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