Flying ruins the game

No, please don’t, I like to turn WM on sometimes. :frowning_face:

Ground mounts meant more player interaction which apparently is bad now. I swear the current player base hates mmos.

Meanwhile FFXIV had flying from patch day and they have seen record numbers…

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People have a hard time understanding this for some reason.

100% agreed, the game is better with everyone on the ground.

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Ditto.

And I remember there still being a lot of wpvp up through MoP, which is four expansions of flying.

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i wouldn’t say fly ruins the game but…

In most instances, I would say it takes away from the experience. Walking/riding thru the content is certainly more immersive than flying over it. Walking/riding thru content is certainly more complicated than flying over it. And walking/riding thru content is certainly more challenging than flying over it.

But not everyone wants an immersive, complicated, challenging experience. In fact, from what I read on these boards, the majority of players don’t want an experience at all; they just want a simple, easy game. And flying gives them that. So it might be ruining the game for you but it is not ruining the game for them; it’s giving them a better game.

And, in certain instances, flying cuts way down on the frustration faction. I ride the majority of the time because I want to be as immersed as possible (otherwise I am not seeing the point of the game) but I would have given half my spells to have flying in Feralas. I still have completed quests on my dwarf priestess for there that haven’t been turned in because the mountains defeated me after I died and I haven’t gone back.

So I think flying needs to stay but gated so content is still apperceived. And players should remember they are not entitled to flying and be grateful they have it.

I know I certainly am every time i get stuck somewhere and the only way out is up!

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Obvious bait is obvious.

Figured. I’ve been playing this game for two years, been on this forum for just a year but when I saw this title I knew which type of player it’s coming from.

The forum really shouldn’t allow classic player to post on retail forum.

Edit: Oh wait you’re posting on a retail char my bad.

Hello Bashiok. “I forgot for a moment that I could fly, and realised I didn’t mind.”

Presumably another Blizzard-seeded anti-flying post to steel us for an even longer Pathfinder in 2021.

Rubbish. The world is alive with people flying around everywhere and since you were too lazy to get Pathfinder you’ve been left behind.

SOme of the biggest fun in this game I’ve ever had was with the Legion pre-oatch invasions, with roaming mobs of flying mounts crossing the skies heading to the next target, like something out of an epic movie where everyone takes to the skies to take down the enemy.

No, flying is NOT “skipping content”. Nedver was, never will be.

You know what is? Flight paths. The ultimate content skip. Developer approved.

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I, disagree.

That’s all movement in every video game. Yes, including ground mounts.

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We can’t kill stuff in the air. We’re all still on the ground. No one is constantly 100% of the time flying. The cities are still filled with tons of people on the ground. People are still doing all of their quests on the ground. People are running dungeons and raids on the ground.

And there’s content in four expansions that can’t be done on the ground. You may want to be on the ground consistently, but not everyone does.

I believe both are wonderful and different experiences to complete the immersion, both one the ground and in the air. Take Nazjatar as an example. Or Deepholm. All of the hidden areas added to Vanilla zones. It’s a wonderful part of exploring and seeing the gorgeous skies that they add. I also love the dangers added to the skies. It makes is seem more the way it should be.

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Basically feel like I’m in a helicopter skipping everything and nuke bombing quest targets with flying. I don’t mind this leveling alts or hunting some old xPaC achievement but in new content and seeing everyone else do it too is kind of a drag.

Just don’t fly you say. Sounds fun being left behind and losing quest mobs/resources to roving packs of attack helicopters.

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Flying is freedom. Are you saying you hate freedom?

And freedom is the American Way. Are you saying you hate America?

But, in reality, flying sux cause it’s too time consuming for functional, productive adults to invest time in, and allows ganksters to take advantage of those if us stuck on the ground.

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Classic hasn’t proven anything at all.

WoW had its greatest numbers when FLYING was in the game and able to be purchased with gold. So, I have proof that FLYING is great for the game.

Unlike you who have no proof that flying is bad for the game or somehow ruins it.

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This is a thinly veiled “I can’t gank and camp people because they can fly away” post.

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Crz ruins the game. How do you like them apples :thinking:

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There’s no such thing as this in WoW. We don’t have mounted combat from our flying mounts.

And you run the new content on the ground first, so you’re getting your ground experience.

As a “functional, productive adult” with a more than full time job, a family and only a couple hours a week to play… I’m capable of getting flying with no issues.

Then turn off Warmode if you’re getting ganked. Regardless of whether you can fly or not, people are still going to gank others.

Fallacious argument, especially when you consider something like Storm Peaks and Icecrown, zones that would have been impossible to traverse without flight. You see flight and you think “easy travel.” I see flight and think of the possibility of bringing depth and dimension to the world by looking at it from a different point of view.

Hell, even flying in TBC was an experience when you considered that you were soaring over the bottomless nether, hopping from a remnant of a dead planet to another.

And the fact is, Blizzard designed those zones to be seen from above: as a level 80, you saw what awaited you on the ground of Icecrown from your high vantage point, and did not want to go down to a sea of endless Scourge. Blizzard used the flying mount like a camera to tell a story, a skill that the cinematographers working at Blizzard lack. The narrative was set so that eventually you’d have to set foot down there, but you felt stronger and more able to tackle what lie at the edges. You came to Icecrown as a new 80, but got more confident in your ability as the quest lines went on, so what was once terrifying became merely challenging.

And with Storm Peaks, you wouldn’t be able to take it all in on foot: if you rode a ground mount to K3, all you’d see was an wall of snow and mountain, but with a flying mount, you got to see what was over the horizon, and for the first time, it was magnificent.

Here’s the thing: flying is a tool, but the tool is not being used to its full potential. Like in Legion, the Broken Isles looked nice from a distance, but it wasn’t as vast as the Storm Peaks or Blade’s Edge Mountains. The areas are smaller, easier to traverse on a ground mount, but ridiculously…inadequate when flown over.

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Your opinion is not a fact, get over it.

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