Fix the old content

[Kaurmine-area-52]

@Ðirestorm-goldrinn

But if groups were needed to go in, why would players not form them?

But when would they be formed? When I say when I mean right now I can go do MC no problem, some people work nights some mornings and they have trouble finding guilds to do current content already and now they have to find guilds to do old raids as well? How will going from “do it whenever I want” to “gotta find a group like a current content raid” be beneficial? And what about gear?

@Ðirestorm-goldrinn

All raids (and some dungeons) should scale with the player to max level.

@Ðirestorm-goldrinn

Because there are good rewards inside them?

Does that mean that literally every item in every raid has to be considered for “what’s best” gear wise? No one will want that. And how will people partition their time? Right now a M raider can raid 5 days a week then zip into MC on the weekened for a few minutes and GG. Your change would make the raid require the same time investment.

[Amani-rexxar]

@Raiimir-stormrage

@Amani-rexxar

Nobody is saying to alter the leveling experience, reverting the raids to 25, would have no impact on it.

You leveling up to 30 in 30 minutes wouldn’t either.

Your toon isn’t even using a single piece of Vanilla raid gear.

I’ve already explained why leveling to 30 would cause problems involving a complete gear farming just to duplicate it at higher ilvls.

And it’s not just about the gear of the raids, it’s having fun in them, and also, I am wearing a piece from the classic raids, yes.

[Malbolgia-shadowsong]

@Raiimir-stormrage

@Amani-rexxar

Nobody is saying to alter the leveling experience, reverting the raids to 25, would have no impact on it.

You leveling up to 30 in 30 minutes wouldn’t either.

Your toon isn’t even using a single piece of Vanilla raid gear.

Oh wait, you’re the dude defending how it’s okay you can’t solo legion raids anymore while bragging that you have a house and multiple hobbies:

Old raids no longer soloable

And ? Takes 2 seconds to type a post. I have a job, a home and multiple hobbies.

No wonder you’re acting like a pretentious jerk here. That’s just who you are.

[Totesmlotes-thrall]

To you terrible Sunday idea? Seems exactly what it deserved.

[Raiimir-stormrage]

@Amani-rexxar

I’ve already explained why leveling to 30 would cause problems involving a complete gear farming just to duplicate it at higher ilvls.

Dude, you’re not wearing a single piece of Vanilla raid gear ANYWAY. You literally have a Broken shore scenario ring.

@Malbolgia-shadowsong

Oh wait, you’re the dude defending how it’s okay you can’t solo legion raids anymore

I mean, we knew you couldn’t months ago, what’s your point ?

@Malbolgia-shadowsong

No wonder you’re acting like a pretentious jerk here. That’s just who you are.

That’s just an insult. You have no argument ?

[Amani-rexxar]

This character absolutely has a piece of vanilla gear on.

[Raiimir-stormrage]

@Amani-rexxar

a piece

Oh dude, a single piece of gear. OMG, that’ll take forever to refarm.

Oh wait no, ToEP is ilvl 29 in game too, you don’t even need to refarm it.

[Amani-rexxar]

In fact, this character is wearing about 5 pieces of vanilla gear lol

[Malbolgia-shadowsong]

@Raiimir-stormrage

@Amani-rexxar

I’ve already explained why leveling to 30 would cause problems involving a complete gear farming just to duplicate it at higher ilvls.

Dude, you’re not wearing a single piece of Vanilla raid gear ANYWAY. You literally have a Broken shore scenario ring.

@Malbolgia-shadowsong

Oh wait, you’re the dude defending how it’s okay you can’t solo legion raids anymore

I mean, we knew you couldn’t months ago, what’s your point ?

@Malbolgia-shadowsong

No wonder you’re acting like a pretentious jerk here. That’s just who you are.

That’s just an insult. You have no argument ?

For all your hobbies and your extravagant life, you sure have posted quite a bit on the forum here.

[Furrfist-frostmourne]

I think that you make some really fair points, but the big issue here is: do enough people want that? To me it is fun to just solo an old raid while listening to a podcast. There’s no pressure. No social interaction. I can afk as I wish. Or alt tab to reddit or the GD. It has it’s own variation of fun that I enjoy that helps balance the other aspects of the game that requires more social interactions and organization.

I think something could be done with timewalking, but on a general level, I would not like to see raids scaled to current level.

[Kaurmine-area-52]

I don’t believe you Come here, I want to check all your tags

[Raiimir-stormrage]

@Malbolgia-shadowsong

you sure have posted quite a bit on the forum here.

Less than the guy who claimed to have no job, no schooling, and no life. But it’s ok my dude, I can see I hit a nerve with you.

[Kaurmine-area-52]

@Raiimir-stormrage

no schooling

I don’t know how true this is but I’ll let it slide

[Malbolgia-shadowsong]

@Raiimir-stormrage

@Malbolgia-shadowsong

you sure have posted quite a bit on the forum here.

Less than the guy who claimed to have no job, no schooling, and no life. But it’s ok my dude, I can see I hit a nerve with you.

Not really. I just find it funny you’re bragging about how awesome your life is while it seems to me your life in the small time I’ve read your posts is nothing more than defending blizzard in the forum.

Why do you come off like that? I mean, you were at 4500 posts just an hour ago.

[Ponykisses-proudmoore]

@Rsweet-thunderfury

Activision is just bleeding this company dry. They do not care about the long run of the game, or the legacy this game will hold.

You do realize they merged in 2008 I honestly don’t think they have that much pull with Blizzard development as much as for a lack of a better term (conspiracy theorist) claim if that was the case SL would be out in OCT

[Raiimir-stormrage]

@Malbolgia-shadowsong

I just find it funny you’re bragging about how awesome your life is while it seems to me your life in the small time I’ve read your posts is nothing more than defending blizzard in the forum.

You sure you read all 4000 of my posts ?

Just because I think the leveling squish is positive and don’t really care about its effect on old raids doesn’t mean I defend Blizzard all the time my dude.

Not everything is black or white. No need to attack Blizzard on everything all the time, that’s not healthy.

[Silverleigh-drakthul]

@Ðirestorm-goldrinn

@Silverleigh-drakthul

Yes, it is.

It keeps people playing and sub money coming in.

How is turning old raids into walking simulators keeping people playing?

Rewards. We want the rewards. And we will keep playing til we get them.

@Ðirestorm-goldrinn

Why is everyone advocating for content to be removed and reward chances being lowered?

Where did that come from?

Who asked for a dungeon or raid to be removed?

Is you tinfoil hat too tight?

@Ðirestorm-goldrinn

Giving people a reason to get a group and go into old raids for a good reward is a much bigger incentive for people to keep subbed.

Then I wonder why they made them soloable.

[Amani-rexxar]

Correct, not everything is black and white, which is why your inability to see a problem with how the classic raids level requirement was botched is even more pathetic.

[Aeondaboil-bonechewer]

@Ðirestorm-goldrinn

The rewards should keep their original drop chance and still require an entire raid of players to clear it.

uh…yeah…that MIGHT work IF there were actually any players who wanted to form teams to run old content EVERY …SINGLE…DAY…ALL…DAY.
But there isnt.
I know.
I tried.
I queued for Mists raids and let it sit for half a day. Not ONE player queued the entire time that I ever saw.

So what we have is what we have.

[Maecyn-earthen-ring (Maecyn)]

@Ðirestorm-goldrinn

All raids (and some dungeons) should scale with the player to max level

Good luck with that…