I was part of the battle attempt. The layering system isn’t allowing big battles. Please, change this so we can have raids in the same layer. Idk, something like send raids to the same layer and distribute everyone else on the server who isn’t on a raid on different layers? We need something that separates the raids and send them altogether to the same layer so we can fight each other. Help us help you keep the servers alive.
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We rolled on a pvp server to PvP.
Please allow us to select our own layer from an NPC or dropdown menu in the login screen.
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This is what you guys wanted? Now youre complaining? SOM 3 and still upset. Layers have always been a thing, but no one cared. This is why we want fresh no changes. no chronoboon. no layers.
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Yes, please! These events are fun, but the current layering makes it difficult to achieve. I don’t like the idea of players being able to opt out of wpvp with layers, though I can understand why the ability to opt into a specific layer for these community organized events would be ideal.
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Layers have not always been a thing. They were added into later expansions (2019). And thus do NOT embrave the spirit of CLASSIC.
Infact in Classic mode, they were initally used, and then DISABLED. This Classic should follow the same path, or allow for an opt into mmo wpvp.
They were never in the OG game.
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They made it seem like they were a temporary solution until they could refine the serverware in 2019. They just never went away. Even Classic Era splits into layers sometimes.
The problem is most players do not see what vanilla is good for, thus Blizzard will never make the appropriate decision. Most people play vanilla like they would retail. Hyper focused on their character alone and everything else in the world is secondary. If something takes too long, they’ll nerf the open world so their curated experience isn’t hindered.
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Blizz has already stated they are OPEN to removing layering but they want voices to be heard. Hence this forum.
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I highly doubt the team and resources they allocate for Classic are capable of doing so. They can’t even fix spell animations that have been broken for over a year.
I agree, please remove the sharding and phasing this is ridiculous. This is why we want a RPPvP Server.
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Thats alright, you can doubt it’s already been confirmed!
I saw this coming from a mile away sadly, it was the #1 reason I passed on this fresh.
Not as much the 300v300 aspects but the never seeing the same person twice creating no personal or guild rivalries leading to a boring and unmemorable experience.
Would the game still be worth playing? Maybe if WSG and AB are good but I’d almost bet that trash AV meta will be back in force again too since ranking is basically just a personal rep grind now.
It is what it is but yes it sucks. The tradeoffs to all this layering and servers with way too many people are absolutely not worth it for a better game IMO. Also, 90% of the Classic 2019 servers didn’t die until TBCC and none of the SoD servers died, they were killed off.
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Maybe create a dedicated large army layer? When the game detects large armies attempting to engage each other, can the game layer them to a large army layer?
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You playing Nightslayer? We can make a friendly wager and I’d be happy if my nihilism was proved wrong.
I think it’s more likely they add a dedicated PvP layer and essentially recreate a worse version of Warmode in Classic, judging by how lazily they implemented dual spec into vanilla.
Thugatron is right 
I question the entire value of your 500+ vs 500+ death balls. I think the best form of WPvP is small groups.
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This is hilarious. Everybody complained about servers dying off as validation for these stupid mega servers, but now that you’re finally realizing how they actually function you complain about that too. If they remove layers for these servers its going to be awful. They need to open up a few more servers and that will naturally cut back on the insane layering.
Also, go back to the old layering system because this new one just flat sucks.
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Loving the haters you guys are still helping the thread by commenting THANK YOU!!
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Not only does laying mess with Wpvp, but , it messes with people trying to level together! To the people who are going to be rude about the layer change, It’s a game. Maybe you need to go play a different one or go play on a PVE server if you don’t’ like wpvp.
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Open up another new PvP server with no layering on it, people that want to play on it then would have to reroll on it an just deal with potential over crowding.
Do you ever actually play the game or just post here 24/7? Do you have a job?
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i agree with having a war layer all the ppl that dont like it can be on a diff layer and we can do our wpvp on our layer and its a win win for the ppl that dont want to be involved and the ppl who like large scale wpvp
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