Fix ardenwalde

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It’s only shifting the blame if the blame is someone elses first.

There’s two parties involved: Blizzard and the user.

No one can verify that it’s Blizzards fault. So I default it to the user as that is most likely the cause in these scenarios. And why do I do that? Because other people have had the same issue as the OP, and able to fix it on their own. They didn’t go around blaming blizzard.

If this is the case, why hasn’t Blizzard come forth and said that? If this is such a big deal and been around for over a year, why has it not been mentioned or fixed or brought up saying “we’re looking into this” as they do when an issue on their end affects a large portion of the player base?

Because I haven’t had a single issue with it. I haven’t had to troubleshoot and find a solution for myself to offer you aside from the one that I did. There have been plenty of other people who have said “I had this issue until I did this”. Goes to show that it was user caused and user fixed. That is the only true verification we have had. Blaming blizzard doesn’t make it blizzards fault.

And I can quote more than 3 in this thread alone saying that they don’t have that issue. Does that mean you now need to accept that it doesn’t exist and you’re making it up?

You: I found players who had this issue. It’s blizzards fault
Me: I found players who have not experienced this issue whatsoever. Perhaps its the users fault
You: No you’re wrong and trolling and it’s 100% blizzards fault because I can’t fix it on my own even though other people have

This is the argument we’ve gone round and round about. I have no problems saying “if it is indeed blizzards fault, I hope they get around to fixing it.” But with me and many others never experiencing the issue, and others able to fix the issue on their own, it’s leaning heavily on the users end.

Yes you mentioned this. Packet loss. But this is also a two way street. Receiving and sending. Could be on Blizzards end, could be on users end. But it still doesn’t solve the issue. Say it is from packet loss somewhere along the line. Why is it happening to the people affected by it? If it is on blizzards end, could it not be affected by physical location and realm choice (and thus the server the user connects to), that you were all so willing to dismiss?

This is another issue that the user themselves can take steps towards to fix. And maybe they do all the steps and look into it and the issue is resolved. Who knows.

Being 100% confident on it being a packet loss issue still does not make it blizzards fault when its very possible that it falls back on the users end.

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And you’ve completely dodged me saying “you need to explain this”. :point_down:

At this point, i’m just going to accept that your “i’m doing fine” line is a lie fabricated to dismiss this issue.

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You’re just a daft moron, that’s all i’m going to say.

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never had a problem there, only places that were terrible for lag was Korthia and Mald when world boss was up

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There’s world boss again, that’s weird. :thinking:

I might have to check that out at some point.

Update:
Kay, so there’s a boss in Revendrith, i didn’t have any lags or stutters in the zone because of him. And i was playing on a Mage mind you.

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Didn’t Vale in 8.3 have this issue when the world boss was up there, if it is in some way, even minutely connected to the world boss, maybe Blizz needs to find a solution to that, or as much as some may hate it, go back to things like VoA, and BH.

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If I was having the same issue, would I not be jumping on the bandwagon that “it’s blizzards fault” ? That doesn’t really make sense.

I’m running the same system you are (more or less, just with a 1650 instead)
All drivers and devices up to date
DirectX dropped and reinstalled within the last few months to make sure it was updated
In game settings all set up above games “recommended” setting
No special add-ons (I run like 3)
No special Mods
Nothing changing the UI
Interface not affected by certain add-ons

Last time I had any noticeable lag was in NH on that first spider boss in an LFR where everyone went super AoE heavy and I had all the spell effects turned to max. And that was on my older computer before I updated it to what I have now.

No lag in the open world
No lag in Korthia/Maw/Torghast
No lag around world bosses (even with 40+ people present)
No lag in major cities
And I’ve never had any freezing in any game like you described in your issues

Your comment of “it’s this because i said it is and thats all i’m going to say” with no information, insight, reasoning, explanation, data, or any type of verification makes it extremely legit. Good job helping everyone who has this issue.

Server stability issues? Part of the reason they don’t combine a lot of realms together? too many players in one zone in a single server (across multiple realms) causing the entire server (and all those connected to it) have issues in those specific areas? Shot in the dark. But even so, I’ve never experienced any lag worth mentioning around world bosses across multiple toons (attached to different servers). /shrug

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Holy mackerel. This thread went off the rails like a crazy train. :steam_locomotive:

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Yea it did lol, mostly just one person digging his hole deeper, but fun to watch and participate, if that’s your kink, no shame.

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I really dont understand how grizzle is trolling or being unhelpful. Hes suggested basic troubleshooting 101 before demanding blizzard fix something that may not even be their fault and everyones acting like he stole candy from a baby.

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Okay that was 1 time! And to be fair, it was mine first!

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Like… what? He didn’t tell us how to troubleshoot. And this is all assuming that OP didn’t troubleshoot before he made the thread.

Well mainly he’s acting like there’s something to lose by us telling Blizzard to fix an issue that existed well over a year. I mean a problem is still a problem, is it not? Why can’t Blizzard fix this?.. :man_shrugging:

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I mean yeah i guess you could demand they fix it. You have the ability to do that in the same way i have the ability to demand toyota fixes my rust bucket of a yukon.

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I would like to know why people keep making comparisons like that. :man_facepalming:

I mean it’s better then comparing it to mods breaking your single-player game, but…

  • First off, i think your trying to use the lack of detail of why your car is broken in example is comparative to WoW here. Here’s the thing, a car will have a visible or noticeable enough problem here. If you’re talking about the engine being broken or refusing to start, then that’s the problem and we can go on from there. How it became broken, most to some of times may not be your fault. WoW on the other hand, i and a lot of others, really have no idea what’s causing the Ardenweald lag, delay and stutter on our end if it is. And this issue exists for a year. If we do know it’s on our end, we would’ve figured it out by now and this issue would be a non issue and this thread as well so many others wouldn’t exist.
  • Second, this is a game, a multiplayer game where we play on the same server thousands of miles away. On a computer no less, that is meant to by played (theoretically speaking) millions of people. And Blizzard can gather the information of the user’s end in whatever capacity is needed and see for it themselves as well put out a fix for it after they replicate the problem.
  • Third, there is nothing wrong with asking a video game company to increase the functionality and compatibility of the software for thousands to millions of people using it. :neutral_face:
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Because you demand that blizzard fixes a problem that may not be theirs to fix. Meaning they can’t fix it. There’s no way to know if it’s them or if it’s us.

Thats why those comparisons are being made. How do they go about fixing a problem that they may not be able to fix. Aka, demanding Toyota to fix a GMC

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You keep claiming it’s a problem on Blizzards end. They can’t fix the issue if the issue is that your graphics card is out of date/not updated (as an example). Yet you keep saying Blizzard needs to fix that issue. They need to fix the problem that your graphics card is out of date.

And if they increase the functionality of the software and it does absolutely nothing for you? (which may be a very good chance of that). Then the problem still exists and nothing got fixed.

You’re demanding Blizzard to do B, when the issue is surrounding unknown variable X. Maybe X = B. Maybe X = 3. We don’t know what it is yet.

Blizzard may try to:

And the problem is: they cannot replicate problems that are strictly on the users end (as with my previous example), meaning they cannot put out a fix for it. This is a very likely possibility. Just as it’s very likely that the entire issue is 100% on Blizzards side and they can fix it. Right now, no one knows who’s to blame. People are claiming issues on Blizzards end, others are claiming issues internally, and then others claim not having any issues whatsoever.

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That’s all he’s done this whole time.

Jentai actually did help and explain how all of this work from Blizzard’s end earlier.

You’re the one not helping.

LOL you’re not wrong! :grin:

They can absolutely tell people what the issue is after looking at logs. Guess what? People have given them the info from log that they specifically asked for and Blizz has never said “try this, because it’s not on our end.” When Blizz gives no response, that means they’re looking into it on their end, genius.

Good God it’s amazing how ridiculous you’re being. :rofl:

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No kidding. Especially since he contiunes with his “What if” scenarios… :point_down:

He’s still trying to make it sound like a problem for blizzard to fix things… “Well what if it doesn’t work? Huh? Now what?” :man_facepalming::man_facepalming::man_facepalming::man_facepalming::man_facepalming::man_facepalming::man_facepalming:

Where’s my cat facepalming image i’ve used days ago?..

Edit: It’s gone. Site unavailable. :frowning:

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Quote me where I’ve dismissed this issue.

He listed an issue which could come from either end and dismisses the idea that it could be on the users end at all.

They’ve been looking into this for a year? Suspicious

They will tell you exactly what the issue is, and most times, it’s users end.

Prove to me that it’s 100% blizzards fault and I’ll stop with the “what if it isn’t”. Problem is…you can’t do that. So it’s “what if it’s the user, or what if it’s blizzard”. You’re dealing with what-if scenarios as well, just without saying “what-if”. Let me rephrase my sentence.

It’s the users issue to deal with. Boom, no what-ifs. Not blizzards problem to fix any more.

Explain to me how Blizzard is supposed to fix a graphic card that needs updated on my end. This should be interesting.

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More lies and dismissal. :+1: