I really don’t see what hes lying about or dismissing? He’s just suggesting its POSSIBLE its a player pc issue as its not a terribly common issue for people to have. He’s not saying its impossible that it isn’t a Blizzard issue, only that ya know, some troubleshooting on the players end could help at least isolate whether the cause is on their end or blizzards.
Lmfao what a tamed, mature response
How many times has someone gone into tech support with logs and those logs have led to a hot fix that next Tuesday?
Of all the people playing, you’re saying it’s more common for Blizzard to screw up on their end than say 3-5million people having an issue on theirs??
Again, it’s entirely possible for the issue to be on Blizzards side. But for the issue to exist very selectively, and for over an entire year it makes it a lot more likely to be user error
This is still going on?
Has anyone arguing posted their dxdiag on the Technical Support forum to see if someone there can say “Ah ha Blizz/ISP/Graphics card is the problem” to get an answer beyond everyone going round and round quoting each other to show who’s wrong or right already
that is odd because whenever I am in game and people are experiencing the Ardenweald lag, no one says I am doing fine. Everyone says lag.
If it was a graphic card it would be occurring all the time. I get unplayable lag if I try to do the callings for that area for a few hours reset, however, if I try later on or early next morning there isn’t an issue.
I believe it has to do with the number of servers they are pushing into each shard. They have all of north america and south america servers showing. I think if they just reduced that area to have only the individual servers we wouldn’t be getting that lag.
not really, see above.
I’ve been checking this on a few toons on a few different shards, and I’ve noticed people talking about the lag. But I’ve been in groups and my group wasn’t experiencing it at all. And solo and around world bosses I’m still doing fine.
Right. But it’s 50/50. Some people (yourself and others in this thread) experience the lag, and others like myself do not experience any lag in the open zone.
I mentioned phasing earlier but had meant sharding. And I think it could totally be that. All these realms on a single server adding additional stress on an already high performance zone (which could explain why it may follow world bosses around).
But some of that falls back on user end too. Like people who lag during raids due to their pc not able to handle the settings they have the game set to (for whatever the multitude of reasons could be).
How many issues would show back up if they reverted the whole sharding thing? Or would it just reduce the population you see running around in the open world outside of instanced scenarios?
Same in Bastion. Why do you think the Stewards are always scrubbing?
In my observation, it is almost certainly this. I don’t know how exactly shards are created, but the lag is identical to the lag you get as a NA player who enters an LFD dungeon with an OCE group lead (an, I assume, vice versa). It’s just worse. It’s not stuttering, it’s not freezes, it’s not any of the issues you’d typically associate with client-side hardware problems. Everything runs smoothly until you try to do something and there’s a massive delay.
As I have observed, this hits some zones worse than others (Ardenweald and Maldraxxus tend to get hit worse than Revendreth and Bastion), and neither The Maw nor Oribos seem to ever be affected. Korthia is bad on reset day but clears up quickly. And in Ardenweald and Maldraxxus, it always seems to be worst when the Challenging Foes calling is active. I can go many days without experiencing any lag, have a zone become practically unplayable for a couple of days, and then it goes completely back to normal. Nothing else changes.
Again, I have no idea how sharding actually works on the back end, but I always just kind of assumed I somehow ended up on an OCE shard and that’s why the game becomes slow to respond in those areas. I’ve never tried shard hopping to clear it up, just instead choosing to avoid those areas, but maybe that’s something to test next time this comes up for me.
No, he’s doubling down and dismissing all evidence given, while lying that it’s mostly a player issue.
Are you going to double down? I’ll be interested to see!
Many people have. Blizzard hasn’t once said it’s the player’s issue. And they’ve even fixed this before themselves. But nope! It’s apparently usually a.player issue! 
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Perhaps. But how does that work exactly. I know part of it is Blizzards issue is server capacity and there’s too much going on in such a small area. But how is the user affected on a personal level.
If Blizzard can sustain X at a given time, does that mean it’ll be fine, but if the user on their end cannot sustain X, they are hit with the lag/delay? And thus some of us are able to hit X with no problems where others are <X and they’re the ones who are noticing the issue? (Using variable X because the word I’m looking for escapes me at the moment).
The only “evidence” given was posts of people stating they have the problem. I can counter that with “evidence” of posts of people saying they fixed the problem on their own.
See the issue with your “evidence” ?
Evidence would be a blue post acknowledging the issue as they do with DDoS attacks, servers crashing, login issues (which doesn’t affect everyone), disconnects, intense lag issues, etc etc etc. Something like:
By all accounts, it hasn’t been fixed yet. Otherwise, why would you be here complaining about it? 
Nor have they admitted it’s a fault on their end. Weird how that works.
Here’s another example of what
has been having an issue with.
And would you look at that. Issue on the user end caused by packet loss like:
claimed it was. And the first solution and diagnosis was a little troubleshooting 101 like I had recommended.
So yeah…definitely leaning a little more towrds
than a Blizzard issue.
None by you! Yet here you still are, doubling down and spreading false information!
And yet it was for a while.
They’ve said they’re looking into it many times. If it was a player issue after seeing logs they would have said so. But you’ll ignore that too. 
You’re full of it and can’t let it go. Talk about obnoxious. LOL
At this point, I’m muting this disaster you created just to troll.
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Did you even read my last post? Check the links provided where a Blue responds.
According to you guys, it’s been present since launch.
Meaning they’ll try to see where the issue is coming from. When has “i’ll look into it” ever been an admission of guilt? Stretching a little far on that one.
I’m experiencing this problem
Okay we’ll try to track down the issue
OMG they admitted it’s their fault!
Is that really how your mind works? Yikes my friend.
I’ve given you actual evidence that the issue that your little shadow says he’s having was looked into by Blizzard and they said to go ahead and deal with the issues on the users end.
The only thing you’ve given to this thread is “a user said they had an issue so it means it’s blizzards fault” - when I’ve given a direct link to a thread to the exact same problem the other guy was having, and Blizzard says to “check your (the users) connections”.
And when presented with that, I’m suddenly trolling? (again?). Convenient.
User problems, ISP problems, or Blizz’s problems the whole thread is boiling down to Blizz just needs to give an answer or solution to everyone still experiencing lag after using every known way to fix the problem.
But the round and round arguments is sadly going nowhere.
Man this thread is still going, checked back on a few alts tonight and the issue seems to have passed for me atleast, not sure if others are still experiencing it or not, but hopefully the cause of the hiccup was resolved.
If its not for others, it could be a sharding issue.
Another issue. Not everyone is experiencing an issue. And for those who are, not all are the same issue.
This isn’t a one solution issue unfortunately
Oh look I went to Ardenweald today after doing NOTHING and changing NOTHING on my end and it’s working just fine.
Blizzard’s issue confirmed.
Oh look, I’ve never had an issue there. Not once. Not blizzards issue confirmed.
Not a very compelling argument sir
You’ve ignored everyone’s issue in this thread and done nothing but troll those who’ve had an issue. Why are you like this?
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Have done no such thing. All I’ve done is recommended people check on their end before crying wolf. I’ve even posted Blue responses to the issues that people are having where they’re (Blizzard) suggesting it’s users end as well.
I have yet to see someone post a Blizzard response where they claimed the issue is on their end and they’re coming up with a solution.