Fire mage in wotlk

Is fire viable and fun in wrath?

Nope, frost mage is the best for PVE dps

Very viable and very fun

Not viable P1. More viable the later into the expansion you are.

By later you mean with Uld gear, specially the buffed Uld gear we’re getting.

It is. Our mage spamming frostfirebolt (and other mage things) and consistently in top5 dps. He does like 1k more dps than our two arcanes.

today on patches he did 6k dps

Pretty good parse for fire, like upper 90s (97-99)

Feel like your arcane mages are slacking though, they should still be beating the fire mage at equal skill level.

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eh, we’re fairly casual guild, no prepots. If boss dies and people are alive we’re happy

That works, generally get those people who could make it in a hardcore guild but prefer casual

This. Especially with T8 bonus and not needing 8+ items with hit to reach hit cap.

That said, Fire is still suffering from the Ignite Munching bug, which if not fixed will make a lot of us hesitant to switch.

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Fire and Arcane are both viable from start to end. Where they sit on rankings depends on player skill, and gearing, so they’ll move throughout the expansion.

The only non viable specs are Frost (mage), Sub, BM, and Blood as dps.

6k DPS is a ~90 parse for arcane and ~95 parse for fire … your arcane mages are slacking

we’ll see if that holds up lol, currently 3 of those are doing better then other “viable” specs

once mages get 4 set bonus from t8 they will be the main spec for the rest of the expasnion.

I’m stating that as a general statement.

Of course I also stated player skill. Just because you’re playing a viable spec does not mean you are a viable player.

All depends on scaling honestly, none of them will ever be top though, but i wouldn’t be surprised if nothing ends up actually non-viable.

Which is why I already stated that they’ll move throughout the expansion. That said, if history means anything, they aren’t going to scale well. Frost and Sub’s toolkits also just aren’t good for pve

Yea, we’ll see how it plays out, everyone thought warriors would suck all of tbc lol.

I do not know a single person who thought that.

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were you around for launch? it was all about warriors rerolling.

But then glancing blows were calculated differently, or some random thing that was different than pservers.