Fire mage in wotlk

Mages will scale better than most because of all stats affecting all dmg (haste w/ living bomb the only exception) and relatively high value from crit. Compared to most classes, mages have among the smallest portion of dmg not getting full stat benefit.

e.g. DKs do not scale well at all because nearly all stats affect less than 50% of their dmg

Arcane didnt scale well in TBC because the haste cap was so low with 1.5s ABs, but AB is fixed at 2.5s in wrath.

Yes. I was there on my first rogue. You said all of tbc. We knew melee would be weaker earlier on, but I don’t know a single person who thought rogues/warriors would be bad late tbc, even on day one.

What would a good race? Human mage?

For pve: Gnome, Space goat, and Troll I would assume. Gnome gets the extra int which turns into I think extra crit. I play melee so idk how it translates, but I know its an increase to a stat. The goats give party wide hit, which is always valuable. Since you’re wanting mage it’d be spell hit specifically. Troll has an attack speed steroid, which helps the burst better.

Human doesn’t really have anything for mages, same for Undead. Belf has arcane torrent which is cool but it’s better for non mana users imo. 2% mana returned once every 2 minutes is meh.

For pvp, human for every man. Arcane torrent is better in pvp as well.

Honestly though, for mage, it doesn’t seem to matter too much. Gnome for personal dps, goat for party benefit, troll for personal dps, or whatever for almost exactly as good dps.

It’s fun, but not viable until ICC. The single target is absolute garbage, and if the mobs doesn’t live more than 12 seconds, arcane mages beat them in terms of AoE damage.

Draenei for hit technically, but uh, I’ve found myself absolutely not needing hit. Always trying to lose it it seems, and I’m human. I’d definitely go human, but I wouldn’t touch fire after you’re done leveling. It’s bad.

Lolwut. Fire mages are like 1 rank down from arcane ATM. It’s so close there is barely a difference between.

COMPLETELY UNPLAYABLE

I guess it depends on the fire mage you’re playing with. All of the fire mages I see dribble at the bottom of the meter next to ret paladins and fury warriors. I guess if you got awesome fire mages that get PI’s and innvervates, they do GREAT. lol

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Arcane is prominent until we get ulduar gear then fire starts getting competitive/creeping ahead through togc. Both specs are viable, it really only matters if you are in a try hard guild and you want to parse.

Viable or not living bomb is super fun.

No question at all that this is true. Great for leveling dungeons if you got a frostie boy slowing stuff for you so you don’t die. Great for heroics too assuming things live long enough. Just not the greatest single target at the moment.

Or would Assin rogue be Better?

No one cares what your mage does. There is data showing arcane is superior.

But in my dad guild


No one cares.

Average arcane mage is better

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/1015#dataset=50

Top 5% arcane mages are better
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/1015#dataset=95

Fire sucks bad on trash because trash dies too fast also.

Arcane blasts bosses
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/1015#dataset=95&metric=bossdps

No reason to go fire unless you want to gimp yourself. All indicators are it’s worse.

About the only spec that has given me competition in aoe situations in dungeons

You haven’t played with a good boomkin then.

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