Fire Mage and Enhancement Shaman PvP Tuning - March 15

“Log retail”. Days later enhance nerfs lol.

Fix Rogues DHs and Hpriests whenever.

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Wrong. Also coordinating CC is a basic for every comp in the game and isn’t unique to mages.

While many of us would like more done current fire mages are tanks who can basically never die and don’t have to worry about positioning. These changes help somewhat in that regard.

Hoping they target these next with selective conduit tunings. Maybe even worth looking at craven legendary and making it not reduce the cd of feign death & removing the new echoing + fastidious resolve trinket from the game. :pray:

I can get behind this. The only other thing I can think of is reducing the leech heal from killing the demon.

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Have you played twos lately?

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All great changes, I would also look at things like greater fade and duration of holy ward.

Yes. Have you? I’ved qued into tons of fire mages playing blazing soul instead of shimmer and the blink shield conduit plus the new cc immunity trinket. Mages have too much survivability mobility and damage. Needs more nerfs.

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Fire mage nerfs will do nothing. DB needs a 30s cd, feint dmg reduction needs to be lowered

I don’t understand, fire mages have been OP for so long and now you are upset? if anything, arcane mages should be angry that they have been ignored for so long.

He’s angry what he mains got nerfed and he’s too inexperienced to understand how fire has it all and can set up for itself solo. He also doesn’t understand how strong fire is in comps outside of RMP.

Man you are spitting out some nonsense hahaha. There are zero groups for fire mage outside of rogue or priest.

Fire ww, fire lock, fire warrior, fire feral, fire boomy. All rank 1 viable comps. You don’t see many fire mages run other comps because RMP is the easiest comp in the game. Doesn’t mean fires bad, you’re just bad for not understanding how easy it is to play.

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I’ll just leave that here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lan67Eql_7A
But what does he know, he is just one of the best NA mages…

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He’s correct in all of his points I’d say personally.

Can still outplay and crush majority of player base I also say as fire.
fire would have to be adjusted to favor it getting a stun which I’m not a fan of.

I’m ok with giving deep freeze back to frost.

Hes also the clown who said gpye was completely fine in bfa and mages needed it to compete… His ability to play the game doesn’t change his insane bias.

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Vsd an enhance today who crit a 45k healing surge.

What would that be after today’s nerfs?

Xaryus one of the most biased rank 1s towards his own class. Also it’s pretty hilarious you’d sit here and argue with Dilly for several hundreds of post who’s also got rank 1 (or close) mage experience but want to post Xaryu as a gotcha. All the non biased mage players will say fire needs nerfs and that fire has too much going on.

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still enough to tilt you

but not enough to make you stop qing frost mage / destro aff sp in favor of a mortal strike effect unfortunately

give something back jeez pyrokinesis was nerfed already

With posts like

or

it is quite hard to believe that Dillon is not biased against Mages himself.

And even if they are both biased to some extent, if I were a bystander, I would rather believe one of the best NA mages, who is a mage main than a person, who is a mage alt, especially if other top 1v1 mage agreed with first mage’s points here.