13/13 raids are foregoing feral druids, moonkin druids, and in many cases resto druids.
Bear is good but heavily overrated.
Bear weaving is the meta feral dps strat that allows you to still be statistically below specs like beast mastery that are hardly played if at all.
Why is it that blizz is always content with cat spec being borderline useless? It’s been the case on retail for as long as I can remember and wrath was basically the only xpac they were worth bringing in and only after the buffs.
Make druids worth bringing again and stop stepping on our class pls.
I remember lots of cats in firelands. Fire cat pretty pog. I think todays meta min max whatever is to blame, less so balancing. If boss dies who cares the comp. Most of the time if you do all mechanics boss dies regardless & people need to care less about parses or having the fastest run possible can’t fathom bringing X class, especially outside of 10m. I dont think blizzard should touch balance in general.
The problem is that blizz made many balance decisions leading up to the patch we’re on that’s made that no balance changes argument weak.
There is no reason to bring a cat druid to a raid trying to push content week 1, and that’s not how viable works.
You “can clear all content” with a prot warrior but no one seriously trying to push content does it save for niche situations like nef adds because it’s way worse than every other option.
It does because the alternative is cutting people out of content despite being perfectly fine clearing the content either way. The only difference is people are excluded, outcome is the same otherwise. So, yes, its a can & should situation.
Also I dont think modern developers should be trusted in regard to balance or anything else. They tweak feral now its top 5 and new bottom guy is complaining for the same. Its just better to leave the game we are trying to replay in the state it came from. You’re here to play cataclysm, if feral aint hot then thats cataclysm. If people weren’t so min max focused it wouldnt matter what class you main. Thats the issue more than balance in my opinion.
I also concede that blizzard giving ferals a bandaid to fix before the next class demands it is more likely to happen and easier to bring about than modern gamers slowing down on min max obnoxiousness
I feel as though feral has typically been niche enough and it has a pretty loyal fan base. The changes in Wrath Classic meant more people who wouldn’t normally play played it than would otherwise.
As someone who does play feral, I sure wouldn’t complain if it’s buffed. I can’t say I was a huge fan of the OoC procs on Faerie Fire, but it’s not like some stupid mechanic was stopping me from having fun.
Anyway, all this to say, “meh. Not going to complain if feral gets buffed, but not going to complain if it doesn’t either.”
Man if you pull the “pity” card for only a spec then you have to come clean and vouch for all the specs that also need help but they are getting none so far…
All this threads are the same…“buff only my class and buff it now for X or Y reason” it always end up on the same conversation… “your spec is fine remember X expansion?”
Balance is totally fine, feral is pretty bad though and barely played outside of tanks in their off spec.
Fire cat is cool but it won’t matter if feral is bottom dps, which they just about are right now. Firelands has great looking gear for people who can actually see their gear too!
Chiming in as a month one druid from original launch. I’ve playing every spec over the years, I can say that when played right they are all good, some patches are better than others, in all expansions.
The current problem comes in as scaling. For some silly reason spell power, attack power, damage reduction, didn’t get scaled right in Cata, if this is ever fixed, who knows, the fact that the same few classes and specs are at top yet again, shows the same bias that existed the first time around by the dev team.
The top devs buff their favorite class and spec combo and leave the rest to try and pick up the crumbs. Sometimes I feel like the only reason the non dev fav classes have any chance is because they don’t want to completely drive away the fan base.
Hey if we’re calling for feral buffs while it’s one of the most disgusting PvP specs in the game right now, can we get a fix for fury? Spec went from a-tier to shadow realm in the same patch they buffed 2 fire mage spells by over 100%, and fury has no PvP viability. Maybe Kaivax can come through with those buffs we were told were coming if “fury underperforms”. They’ve had 13 years to think about them so I hope they’re good.
No clue. Ferals got super weird during wrath after they didn’t live up to bugged pserver expectations. The death threats to devs were just the icing on the cake.
Feral druids sucked on damage on phase 1 of Wrath, one of the most complex rotation with one of the most mediocre damages output in the game
Phase 2 of wrath they got buffed and rised to the top.
One thing is clear, most ferals that used to play in wrath for the goal of doing good damage ended up picking a different class because of blizzards discouragement by making the class a joke
If you like playing strictly only behind the boss, managing your energy, going into bear form, leaveweaving and thornweaving and love to do mediocre damage, feral druid is perfect for you.
Ferals must have short term memory issues. You guys were mid-pack dps on 2 specs in early WotLK and got an unneeded buff that made you the #1 melee for the rest of the expansion, beating out classes that GOT a legendary. (Warriors on both specs were at the bottom btw, and told to “suck it up, you’ll scale”)
The only reason you guys got any kind of buff was because Blizzard decided bear-weaving was too complex for you to handle.
You guys cope so hard about the complexity of feral when it’s not even remotely difficult. Even less so with the omen of clarity change making it braindead.
How about you guys just accept being mid-pack this time instead of throwing tantrums on the forums? There’s like 5 threads begging for feral buffs and it’s just sad.
Were not middle pack at all . Argument is invalid. Feral druid is 100 times harder than playing zug warrior. Dont cope. and omen of clarity made it so that you dont have to bearweave because there’s clearly 4 specs
TREE, CAT , BEAR AND BOMMIE.
There should be no need to go into bear form ever to do damage, and in this case , even if you do bearweave you still are placed right after tanks on damage meters, how is that midpack
who cares the comp. Most of the time if you do all mechanics boss dies regardless & people need to care less about parses or having the fastest run possible can’t fathom bringing X class, especially outside of 10m. I dont think blizzard should touch balance in general.
