Feedback: Same-Faction Battlegrounds Test

also able to prevent other MS re-application and can easily be communicated to Healer buddy for a timed no MS heal

This joke is still around? If u want to experiment with the game just give it another name… Go back to retail horde cry babies.

How to fix the game…

1.) Force faction balance - add queue times for the over popped faction and disallow character creation

it’s magic…

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LMFAO

you think a flat chance to resist stuns isn’t worth a damn? LOL

10% flat haste is also dumb good for PvE

oh yeah. i hear players all the time saying, “i’m popping my racial… get ready to heal me in 5s!”

yep… abra cadabra! 1/2 the entire classic population is gone! along with their money…

show me where i said this?

i’ll wait.

true, but this discussion is about pvp. try to keep up lil one.

accuses someone else of being selfish
literally makes a selfish demand himself in the post

And in a heavy fear based expansion where Arena is introduced, you don’t think that WOTF has influenced people to go UD?

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Feedback:

You have successfully enabled Same-Faction BGS.
You have successfully tested that the ratios are near 50%, outside and inside BGS.
You have an overwhelming majority of players who are for this change, which is significantly difficult to find in an era of #nochanges.

You have an Arena system slowly bleeding out because it doesn’t have as many players participating and only the ones really that have great gear and did the grind (or got lucky and got all their honor/marks) the day the game gave 10x honor.

The less intense PvP crowd has already gotten bored of the 1 hour queues and 50% of the time premades in order to get the honor needed to get pieces. They also can’t get that much arena points because they have no resil, because farming resil requires you to no life wow like your grinding for rank 14 in classic.

Meanwhile…
The only complaints against this change are…
You chose your side knowing you’d have high queue times. Horde has better racials for PvP so Alliance should get an advantage in gearing speed.

First of all, the best combo right now in 2’s is pretty much Dwarf Priest, Human Rogue. Alliance racials. Perception is a hard advantage against the Rogue meta, which we are currently in. So please don’t give me that Horde have better racials. There’s good racials on each side, it just depends what kind of comp you want to play or what bracket.


All in all, this needs to go in. It should have already gone through already. You shouldn’t need over 2 weeks of internal whatever your doing to get this out there. You had a system working already in the test. You had it on the live game, you were able to make quick fixes to it like the same faction speaking, etc.

You have and are sitting on a solid system that overall improves the quality of the game, and the increases the population of your game, and increases the amount of time people (actively) are playing your game, indirectly gives you more streaming platform viewers, which in turn gives you more advertising, which gives you more money.

Just… release… it… already.

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yeah and that Ms effect gets removed in wotlk.

100% did. Your opinion, as ignorant as it is, is wrong.

you think that because 2s dwarf rogue is good that alliance racials are as good as horde racials and therefore the argument is invalid.

It’s not even about what racial is better. it’s about what racial people THINK is better and how they behave accordingly. Whatever the racials are, the community has decided that horde’s are better and has responded by rolling horde for pvp purposes.

I don’t object same faction bgs, but if you can’t see that, as they currently conceive of it, it will ultimately be worse for the game, then you don’t understand the dynamics of this community very well.

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Premading with more than 5 people is still possible.

Faced a full HORDE Whitemane premade and another almost-full HORDE premade (10ish people) from Skeram or Faerlina can’t remember.

All it takes is short queue times, and groups can queue-sync.

It might take a couple of tries for the 2-3 groups of 5’s queues to all pop at the same time, but that’s OK because queues are <1 min so if not all groups’ queues popped at the same time, can just drop queue and try again, NBD, only wasted <1 min.

removing pre-made groups is cringe.

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So you removed premades. The way the majority of the pvp community on servers played with their friends.
You gave horde instaqueue and alliance a chance at a bag of garbage after everyone already rolled horde for TBCC.
Guilds are falling apart and reforming for SSC/TK. People quitting or transferring. Heroics are dead; not enough tanks. Most decent ones are raid logging.

Thank you for making sure no one will have a reason to play ally. i look forward to cancelling my subs when the 4th guild falls apart due to lack of talent and ability to recruit more. maybe we’ll get to see BT before that happens. Or, if you feel any pity (hah), let ally faction transfer to horde for free. at least then there can be a player base that will last through sunwell.

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Good fix hope it stays. It’s a shame it was only tested over av weekend so basically the same Faction feature wasn’t really tested much. Just keep it om why turn it off.

any chance of just making factionless BGs? alliance & horde on same side?

pservers did it to help with balance, and tbh it’s a perfect solution. i know it ruins the immersion, but the gameplay benefits are obvious

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Glad to have same faction BG’s back! Also the 5 man premade seems way more legit. It doesn’t give the team an overwhelming advantage and an instant win. The masks still need a little bit silly, but I like the tabards and flags on personal buff to identify.

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Its great to actually be able to PVP as horde. Awesome change! Only complaint is honor takes way too long to be able purchase a piece. I played AV all weekend fri/sat/sun and i barely got enough for gloves. Looks like this is being addressed in new patch which is good!

Overall great work with the HvH queues!

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