Feedback for World of Warcraft: The War Within

[Raiatko-nazjatar]

@Raiatko-nazjatar

In PvE, addons trivialize mechanics by providing automated alerts and step-by-step instructions, leaving little room for players to learn and master encounters organically. This reliance can discourage player growth and create an artificial barrier for new players, as the expectation to use specific addons becomes mandatory for participation in high-end content. Additionally, the game’s most challenging encounters are often designed with addons in mind, resulting in overly complex mechanics that cater to third-party tools rather than the players themselves.

In PvP, addons disrupt the competitive balance by offering unfair advantages. Tools that track cooldowns, predict enemy movements, or provide real-time strategic prompts undermine the integrity of PvP as a test of skill and awareness. This makes victories feel less rewarding for players who prefer relying on their own abilities and instincts. The reliance on addons also creates an uneven playing field, reducing accessibility for newer or more casual players who may not be familiar with these tools.

From a development perspective, addons divert resources and creativity. Developers are often forced to design content and mechanics around the existence of addons, rather than focusing on creating intuitive and engaging gameplay for all players. This leads to inefficiencies and missed opportunities to refine core systems or introduce innovative features.

To address these issues, addons should be removed entirely, except for cosmetic purposes that enhance personalization without affecting gameplay. This ensures a more equitable experience while allowing players to enjoy the game as it was designed.

@Akston-area-52

What content are they required for?

Here you go buddy, this is why

[Akston-area-52]

Ok.

In that quote, can you show me exactly where you listed the specific content add ons are required for?

[Raiatko-nazjatar]

@Akston-area-52

In that quote, can you show me exactly where you listed the specific content add ons are required for?

Would you like me to highlight and put a sticker next to it as well?

This is a general feedback post, not a thesis. Have a day.

[Quivermethis-rexxar]

@Raiatko-nazjatar

You’re not arguing in good faith. If they weren’t necessary then removing them wouldn’t be an issue

Idk how you think that was bad faith. Im a veteran, and you are posting these things on a lvl 10 hiding.

I guess Ill stop defending your post.
This quickly turned into tinfoil hat “remove all addons” post.

[Akston-area-52]

@Raiatko-nazjatar

Would you like me to highlight and put a sticker next to it as well?

Its weird how you could have just answered this question. Instead you have deflected multiple times.

But yes.

I would like you to highlight and put a sticker next to the exact statement where you outline the specific content add ons are required for.

@Raiatko-nazjatar

This is a general feedback post, not a thesis. Have a day.

I am not asking for a thesis.

[Raiatko-nazjatar]

@Quivermethis-rexxar

Idk how you think that was bad faith. Im a veteran, and you are posting these things on a lvl 10 hiding.

Because you’re arguing addons aren’t necessary in high end content and that’s just not true.

[Akston-area-52]

@Raiatko-nazjatar

Because you’re arguing addons aren’t necessary in high end content and that’s just not true.

What content, specifically, are they required in?

We dont even know what content you are talking about when you state this.

[Raiatko-nazjatar]

Feedback post flagged to hide and prevent discussion. I think we’re done talking, you’re a well known troll and disruptive person

[Calistrian-garrosh]

These responses honestly aren’t that shocking. The OP kinda reads like you asked some AI for 4 things to list that would irk the majority of GD while inviting in a bunch of trolls. Your “answers” to most people are to refer back to your OP, but the OP doesn’t elaborate - hence why people are asking in the first place. You said “high end content” but that doesn’t specify squat

[Kiyoko-ravenholdt]

@Raiatko-nazjatar

You’re right that Blizzard likely won’t reverse decisions like ‘Body Type 2,’ but that’s not really the point of bringing it up. The concern is how these changes reflect a broader trend of prioritizing messaging over gameplay depth

If you think that this takes away gameplay depth you’re out of your mind. That’s the definition of a 2 second change by an intern.

[Akston-area-52]

@Raiatko-nazjatar

Feedback post flagged to hide and prevent discussion. I think we’re done talking, you’re a well known troll and disruptive person

I didnt flag anything.

I dont know how I am trolling by asking you to clarify your own points.

Like I get you wanted to do your political posturing. But I attempted to keep it on track.

[Raiatko-nazjatar]

@Calistrian-garrosh

These responses honestly aren’t that shocking. The OP kinda reads like you asked some AI for 4 things to list that would irk the majority of GD while inviting in a bunch of trolls. Your “answers” to most people are to refer back to your OP, but the OP doesn’t elaborate - hence why people are asking in the first place. You said “high end content” but that doesn’t specify squat

Didn’t think it was necessary to explain the main game modes of WoW—raiding, Mythic+, and PvP kind of speak for themselves. If we’re splitting hairs over ‘high-end content,’ it’s the stuff where WeakAuras yells at you to move or Gladius decides your arena fate. But sure, next time I’ll draw a flowchart for clarity.

[Kiyoko-ravenholdt]

@Calistrian-garrosh

The OP kinda reads like you asked some AI for 4 things

Kind of? That’s… A word for it.

[Akston-area-52]

@Raiatko-nazjatar

Didn’t think it was necessary to explain the main game modes of WoW—raiding, Mythic+, and PvP kind of speak for themselves.

M+, raiding, have a variety of difficulty levels. What is high end content to one person, isnt necessarily to another. Thats why people ask so we can be on the same page.

@Raiatko-nazjatar

If we’re splitting hairs over ‘high-end content

We arent splitting hairs because you wont say anything. Most likely because you know what the response will be. Showing how its not required.

@Raiatko-nazjatar

But sure, next time I’ll draw a flowchart for clarity.

No one is asking for a flow chart. Just 3-4 words explaining your point.

But you keep running away.

[Raiatko-nazjatar]

@Akston-area-52

M+, raiding, have a variety of difficulty levels. What is high end content to one person, isnt necessarily to another.

Fair point, but we both know ‘high-end’ typically means Mythic raiding, high M+ keys, and competitive PvP—content where add-ons go from helpful to practically mandatory. Sure, ‘high-end’ can be subjective, but let’s not pretend Normal raids or low keys are the same conversation.

[Akston-area-52]

@Raiatko-nazjatar

Fair point, but we both know ‘high-end’ typically means Mythic raiding, high M+ keys

To some people high keys are 8s. To some 10s. To some 12s. Others 14+.

I would not say any keys require add ons.

[Raiatko-nazjatar]

@Akston-area-52

To some people high keys are 8s. To some 10s. To some 12s. Others 14+.

I would not say any keys require add ons.

If we’re calling +8s ‘high keys,’ then yeah, add-ons probably aren’t ‘required.’ But let’s not kid ourselves—once you’re pushing 15+ or timing 20s, add-ons like DBM and WeakAuras stop being optional for most players. This feels more like nitpicking than an actual argument, but hey, you do you.

[Calistrian-garrosh]

I mean to me a +3 would be a high key as I’ve never set foot in a M+ period lol

[Akston-area-52]

@Raiatko-nazjatar

If we’re calling +8s ‘high keys,’ then yeah, add-ons probably aren’t ‘required.’ But let’s not kid ourselves—once you’re pushing 15+ or timing 20s, add-ons like DBM and WeakAuras stop being optional for most players. This feels more like nitpicking than an actual argument, but hey, you do you

Are you pushing 15s or timing 20s?

Because I would be intrigued to see evidence of this.

[Raiatko-nazjatar]

@Calistrian-garrosh

I mean to me a +3 would be a high key as I’ve never set foot in a M+ period lol

Fair enough—if a +3 feels like a high key to you, we’re clearly playing different games. Not much point debating add-ons if we’re not even in the same ballpark.