thats just like , your opinion man.
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It’s not an opinion that the old system didn’t affect a lot of the people that it aimed to stop.
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Yeah but it still had to go through a GM on the old one. The new one is automatic and getting unsilenced is up to the GM whenever they get around to it (usually hours).
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again thats your opinion. you dont have the statistics to back that up.
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The silences aren’t permanent and that assumes the silences weren’t justified.
Your argument against such revolves around people abusing the system. The problem with that is that people abuse both systems and it’s easier to abuse the old system. The new system requires multiple people coordinating to abuse, and, in doing so, puts them as targets for punishment for abusing it.
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No it’s not people blatantly abused the lenience of blizzard’s enforcement before right click reporting. Don’t confuse lack of enforcement with it actually being acceptable behavior.
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How is it easier to abuse the old system if it still needs to go through a GM?
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If you’re not online for the punishment cycle, you are abusing the system by getting around the punishment.
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Instead, reporting of trolling and toxic behavior MUST be handled in the old way; a report is filed to a REAL GM who then reviews the situation and takes the needed action.
Before the new system
We had people telling filthy jokes in Trade…and by filthy I dont mean off colour…I mean the kind that was literally disgusting. We reported them but it took a day or more. And so they kept on.
The new system slaps a gag on their mouths almost immediately.
GMs have better things to do and limited time so NO, the current system works fine as is and you can expect this on Classic servers. I dont see one valid reason why it should not be.
Oh and btw, that will also apply to the old “name and shame:” and harassment. Slander a person, smear their name, expect to be squelched.
See…Ive never played in Vanilla , Ive been here eight years , Ive never once been squelched or silenced. Then again, I practice self control and discipline, along with a little common sense.
So really, the current system works fine as is.
Don’t confuse lack of enforcement with it actually being acceptable behavior.
I think thats whats at the heart of it.
“We got away with it then why cant we do it now”
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yawn . authoritarians are annoying but can be frightening. especially if given power.
gl with all that. i am thinking i really might not agree with blizzard on some of the decisions they are making.
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yawn . authoritarians are annoying but can be frightening. especially if given power.
Blizzards game, Blizzards rules, you clicked “I agree” when you logged in. And now you want to be excepted from the rules you agreed to.
Nope.
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gl with all that.
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gl with all that.
WIth what?
I dont have a problem with following rules I agreed to.
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It’s worked pretty well so far.
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So you’re for guilty until proven innocent with the added bonus of the punishment often being over before any trial (read GM review) will take place?
That’s a pretty un-American position. The old way worked, if not with the same level of immediacy. Personally I’d prefer to know the correct decision will be implemented later than see innocent people punished because some people can’t handle a multi-player environment. There is 0 question that auto-squelch can be abused, we’ve all seen the examples. Even if the abuser suffers from some punishment for their false reporting it doesn’t alter the fact that an innocent person was punished…
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So you’re for guilty until proven innocent with the added bonus of the punishment often being over before any trial (read GM review) will take place?
The squelch has been here for years.
That’s a pretty un-American position
Well yes, seeing as a great proportion of the playerbase isnt American.
The old way worked, if not with the same level of immediacy.
No it didnt which is why it was changed. Immediacy is why it needed to be changed.
Personally I’d prefer to know the correct decision will be implemented later than see innocent people punished because some people can’t handle a multi-player environment.
Id prefer it if you accepted that the best way to not be squelched or silenced is to exercise a modicum of restraint and self control.
It really comes down to:
Think then type.
How hard can that be?
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This isn’t america. Also it requires coordination to abuse the newer system which isn’t going to exactly be easy.
The old way didn’t work. It was abused and only required 1 person to abuse it. We already know that there’s going to be as little manpower given to classic as possible with as much as they’ve announced for automated processes. What can a GM do to punish someone under the old system when that person is going to be logged out for the duration of their punishment anyways?
Personally i’d like people to be handled as quickly as possible. If someone abuses the system, there’s evidence they abused the system.
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false. it was changed due to cost cutting being pushed by activision exects.
being away from the game is punishment enough. it wasnt something they could control with someone being away from the game from their own reasons and i doubt it happened with any real frequency when it did happen.
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false. it was changed due to cost cutting being pushed by activision exects.
False. Activision had zero to do with it…and they have zero to do with Blizzard either. I dont know why people insist on believing this fallacy.
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false. theres been quite a few interviews and articles written about it to back up my statement.
try again.