In the old days, there was no filter, no limit to how often you could post to trade or general. From a dozen of people who could make macros to spam, it was common to just see nothing but walls of “BLACKROCK DOWN” ad infinitum.
Towards the end of Vanilla, I believe, they finally put in limits on the number of posts you could send. At this point, I believe it’s two posts per minute or so to a global channel. However, spam is still present in yells, emotes and speech, which aren’t as clearly defined.
There’s still plenty of ways to spam, and even new ones. There’s addons that allow you to copy whole books and paste them and will function by automatically sending each section in sequence.
So you’re saying that they don’t review reports unless enough report to trigger a squelch? So I can get on some near empty zone and swear to my heart’s content because there aren’t enough people to trigger a squelch and meanwhile Jimmy over there who posted about liking the job Trump has done in Stormwind chat gets squelched for not violating the rules. Yep, that system makes perfect sense…
This thread is a case study for psychology. There are people who will justify anything done by institutions as a makeshift fix for complicated problems because they can make use of it for their own ends, i.e. to police others. When everyone is equally chained, there is an inevitable number of people who deal with it by tugging the chains of others in order to get some kind of cohesion they can deal with.
This is where polite society replaces the previous moral one in repressiveness.
The same sort of people will make flawed moral arguments to rationalize the clumsy actions of large institutions in order to fool people into thinking everyone wins except the bad guys. This has been a theme in human society since forever.
The reality is, rules set are inevitably rules abused because you cannot regulate social interactions in a way that benefits everyone while making everyone feel free to be themselves. There is a zero-sum game in the former and a net loss in the latter. The reason for this is what explains the existence of rules, people are irrational and cannot be trusted with power over others.
Mass platforms, whether it’s mass market games like WoW, social media, or our own civil society are the worst offenders because they aggregate irrationalism, groupthink, and disrespect for others while also reaching the totality of individual experiences. We all know this. Mass structures require a proportional amount of managerialism because of it, but the most contemptible thing about it is the people who seek to gain from it.
This thread is a case study for psychology. There are people who will justify anything done by institutions as a makeshift fix for complicated problems because they can make use of it for their own ends, i.e. to police others. When everyone is equally chained, there is an inevitable number of people who deal with it by tugging the chains of others in order to get some kind of cohesion they can deal with.
You walked into a private residence, signed an agreement to follow specific rules and guidelines on behaviour, and are now complaining about those same requirements you agreed to.
When you installed WOW, you were shown specific terms of use that required you to click I AGREE to continue.
Did you read it? No? Then thats on you.
You then agreed to those terms. Agreed to be bound by them. No one forced you to agree to it.
Yet you did.
No one IS forcing you to do so. You are free to unsub and leave the game any time you so choose.
So, quite frankly, your argument has zero merit.
If you dont like what it says, if you dont agree to what it requires you to do, then dont click I AGREE to it or sign it.
It is that simple.
Id also suggest you look at other MMO’s and how they police their communities.
By their standards Blizzard is easygoing. Some of them are…lets just say…short on patience and tolerance. Very short.
they dont…
And i dont think you know how the legal system works.
If the police are called about someone trying to break into a house, the police will go there and hold the person for abit to ask them whats up.
Just like how with automated silence, if a bunch of people report them, then the person will be silenced for abit.
You do not need to prove your innocent, just dont become a target, and if you do the people who falsly report you will be punished.
and nah, it wasnt, cause gold spammers would go for hours without being punished, and kept changing from charecter to charecter, something an automated silence would stop. Aswell as it made Gm times way, wya longer
Wow. First you are victim blaming because afterall, it is their fault for becoming a target. Then you make the completely false assumption that abusers will be punished. Citation needed. Post evidence of ONE abuser ever being punished. I’ve issued this same challenge to others and they are all dead silent. But blaming the victim? That is downright disgusting.
If you think GMs have the time to view and pass judgement on each and every hand written report, then they surely have time to view each squelch case, judge if it was justified, and if not justified punish the ones abusing the system.
Wish these “victims” would take their totally “innocent” and completely “verifiable” claims to CS forum.
I’d love watching as they get called on their innocence. Lol
Nope. Instead we get the blatant tactic of firing up the masses, outrage before any solid facts are established, and ofc the obligatory this streamer said videos. Lol
Gee didn’t we just watch an election play out like this? Oh god dont flag me for bringing up politics but this situation sure is rooted in today’s politics.
The tactics as well…
But you have been given examples of people who abuse WoW systems getting punished, you just somehow think that repeated abusers of squelching somehow are immune.
I believe that the GM can review every squelch case. The two problems are A)the rule is so broad, the person can claim it was offensive to them. The thing literally says what players deem inappropriate. B) The person who got squelched, if found innocent, still had to suffer the squelch. You also get disconnected when the squelch is applied which can cause some other issues.
Exactly, it enforces a guilty until proven innocent system. With the punished party essentially receiving a partial ban when it comes to their ability to do certain task in vanilla.
I agree. The person who does the reporting may have a different background and upbringing in life. What one person finds offensive might be the norm in another persons life. Its all subjective to the individual. Then on top of that its the same for the moderation. They could be having a good day or a bad day. They might have been raised in a different upbringing than the person who got reported. This game spans many cultures and countries really. So maybe some people are not trying to abuse it, but it comes across that way to others. Its all subjective. You cannot legislate morality because of this.