What do you think of how the game has changed since then? I stopped just before Cataclysm got released and played part way through Legion.
Trying to pretend that you would be willing to group again with a player who just cost you hours/days/weeks/months/years of time by ninja looting a desired item, on the other hand⌠Yeah⌠Obvious troll is obvious.
Nope.
I dont carry grudges, dont keep blacklists, dont see anyone as âundesirableâ. Life is way, WAY too short for that nonsense.
Ill give you some small perspective, and leave you to chew over it.
Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrowâŚbut eventually, WOW will close. Entropy always increases.
With that in mind, I dont lose sleep over pixels in a game.
The day WOW closes, none of it will matter.
The day after WOW closes, no one will care.
A month after WOW closes, no one will remember any of it.
If WOW closed tomorrow, Id uninstall the game and move on to other interests.
So, when it comes down to it, one of us is putting a lot of emphasis and time and emotion into a game.
One of us knows full well that this too, shall pass.
I will leave it there.
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I used to think this wasnât a big deal. However, I watched a video by Tips on the subject today and Iâve completely changed my mind. Obviously there needs to be a reporting system â we canât have the devilsaur mafia rising up again. But as many have pointed out, Classic has too many systems that donât mesh with an automated reporting system that can bans players without human interaction first.
For example:
â No LFD/LFR/LFG tool makes squelching essential force a player to level an alt until itâs gone (and even that would be severely impaired)
â No phasing and the existence of mob tagging encourages the selfish tools out there to ban anyone who gets in their way
â Meaningful, unique encounters like The Scarab Lord, world firsts, etc. can be ruined for hard working players in seconds
â As is already a problem in retail, BGâs and other faction vs. faction events may encounter minor to severe imbalancing due to mass reporting
And Iâm sure thereâs more I havenât thought of. I donât know exactly how Blizzard could combat this, but Iâm personally convinced that banning and reporting needs to be handled differently in Classic â enough so that Iâll be hesitant to even play the game if it remains unchanged. Constantly looking over my shoulder waiting for some jerk to take away my passtime because they couldnât be bothered to wait for a respawn is not my idea of a fun time.
Awesome. You are my kind of person then. Letâs get together and slaughter some horde my dude. 
Life is too short to be putting up with people I know are going to be making things a worse experience for me.
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Now this is some existential food for thought. Maybe through entropy more purps will end up in my inventory then when I started.
It wont prevent me from playing the game. Not a deal breaker, but entirely preventable. Itâll be amazing once itâs abused and the drama on the forums start. Itâll make for some excellent reading.
What do you think of how the game has changed since then? I stopped just before Cataclysm got released and played part way through Legion.
Overall, Iâve enjoyed it. Some good, some bad, some fun times, some times Ive wondered what the hell the devs were doing. Or why for that matter.
Im glad I have the time now, didnt thenâŚbetween when Vanilla launched ( I was invited by a mate and sent a disc ) and when I actually got startedâŚyou dont want to know.
I was lucky to get four hours sleep a night some weeks. Long story.
Overall, with some hiccups along the way ( Yes WOD I am looking at you⌠) its been a blast. The changes have been for the most part good, LFR was a godsend, LFD well the game is better with it than withoutâŚits also been a lot about the people, again a mix.
Some stuff needs fixing, some doesnt. But thats the same anywhere, there is no âidealâ because an âidealâ is not and cannot be a perfect model.
We take what we can get, we accept what is, we manage or we walk away if we dont like it.
Best answer I can give without a three page summaryâŚ
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For a game you donât care about, you are putting a lot of emphasis, time, and emotion into trolling the forums for it.
Maybe through entropy more purps will end up in my inventory then when I started.
Well no , entropy doesnt give, it takes away.![:stuck_out_tongue:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/stuck_out_tongue.png?v=6" ":stuck_out_tongue:")
Itâs only as vile and disgusting as the people using it. Donât abuse it and theres NOTHING wrong with it.
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Thatâs pretty good. I had to quit WotLK because I wanted to make sure I had time for college. It seemed to work out well in the long run. I started in Beta and went solid until basically ICC. Sucks that during that time for a while I was stuck on 56k because of outside factors. Still survived though.
Coming back at the very end of WoD and start of Legion was interesting. Totally different game. Went from feeling like an RPG to an arcade shooter (played hunter). Once I accepted that it was a different game it was a lot more fun. Didnât like how Hunters got changed so much just before Legion, but I dealt with it.
I could talk about Legion but basically it was solid. Did not like how they added catch up mechanics though like AP knowledge and better loot through mythics.
And here I thought entropy was closer to chaotic movement into the lowest energy state. Those bosses with all them purples inside them sure could use some entropy distributing them to my raid. Hopefully to my empty bags.
Well to an extent, but in one context entropy can refer to a slow degradation or state of decay.
My edit was merely moving
from below the Booms story, to a place above it, because I had a feeling might not be capable of containing your ADD long enough to realize that the moved quote was actually addressing you, rather than some kind of reply to my own quoteâŚ
There where -zero- other changes to the content of my post, beyond moving that one itemâŚand it was literally only moved it because I figured you where too simple to understand it otherwise. Thanks for proving that instinct right.
Riveting ââdiscussionââ i can save you a lot more headache or cause more i guess, i wont be playing classic as itâs clear iâm not welcome so you wont have to worry about me ââabusingââ my power just because some ![:poop:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/poop.png?v=6" ":poop:")
started ranting about trump or whoever the next US president is,in barrens chat or some rando started going off about xxsephirothxx stealing his Ironfoe.
I donât see the report feature being a big problem, i do see people like you having a hard time coming to terms with being accountable to anybody however, i also see people abusing the system and due to your fear mongering i see them going out of their way to abuse it first so blizzard can âânip the problem in the bud earlyââ but this post stopped being a discussion months ago itâs just a circle jerk argument. Which is why i hate that we canât ignore people because both ignoring someone and silencing them when they step over -< this tiny arbitrary line is a far better system than just ââlet the people sort it outââ (because thatâs always worked out through history)
Well, thatâs plainly false.
Welcome to Museum Mode. Behave like adults or get treated like children.
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All of you have just been reported. Enjoy your bans.
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I havenât read any of the rest of this thread.
Automated mutes and bans have no place in Classic.
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Open your eyes in someoneâs direction and they will claim you are harassing them and assaulted them. If you are a white male, be prepared to be sued and tried unjustly. The 1990s and early 2000s were much better than 2010s, pretty much everything before 2010s were better days. The 2020s are going to be a living hell if this mentality young adults have today continues.
Big Post, incoming!
Iâm confused 
But you did refer to my inability to post on the forums, as a âSquelchâ, though.
For my understanding, Iâm going to refer to it as âslangâ.
Right, I pretty much knew that, already 
Itâs all good. It was a nice healthy discussion that had zero ad hominems and hostility. It was quite pleasant 
A mass? No. Dishonest reports, absolutely.
I donât think itâs a huge problem, but I can still take issue with people falsely reporting and wasting GM time with nonsense, as youâve admitted (not the ânonesenseâ part but numerous reporting) to which I canât even fathom what cat, these people you are reporting, has been run over. Are these people really THAT bad, like seriously?
But itâs not âbasicâ. You canât even explain, in detail, what your problem is. You just stand behind a vague stance such as âthey broke policyâ. And when asked âwhich policy?â, you go âdoesnât matter, they broke policyâ. Am I supposed to take your word, at face value? LOL
Well, when Iâm trying to use an analogy (mind you, it may be bad), but how else can I make my point, if I feel a certain way. by equating it to something that might be considered âoffensiveâ? I canât go into details because even as I test the waters, here, somebody, like Aehl, will report me, to dictate what I can and cannot say, even though Iâm just having a discussion, that isnât meant to be taken, negatively.
Precisely why I cannot even finish my story 'cause somebody will either A) Take it the wrong way or B) Play authoritarian to have control over what can and cannot be said.
There have only been a couple of occasions, that I have been Squelched. What Iâve noticed, majority of the time it happens, I can theorize that the Reporters wanted to âshut me upâ for the sake of âshutting me upâ.
Which, again, doesnât mean we canât advocate to âappealâ it. See what I did there? ;p
Well, there are other problems that need to get fixed (like forced PL), and âchangesâ nobody really asked for (like forced PL), that got implemented, so, I donât understand your argument.
I want to see the âmassive outcryâ for the S.E.L.F.I.E Cam, that nobody asked for, yet that nonesense weedled itâs way into the game. And this thread has a few supporters, itâs only a matter of time (maybe 10 years, since thatâs how long it took to get a âyesâ, for Classic Servers), before the ball starts rolling.
Again, weâre here in this thread. May not be as popular as the âAnti-CRZâ, âAnti-Shardingâ, âAnti-Loot Tradingâ crowd, but that doesnât mean weâre non-existent. Iâm sure there are other priorities, that they are attending to, but that doesnât discredit the facts.
I would prefer a different route. Itâs still annoying, when you do get squelched (even if itâs not often), my time is still being interfered 'cause I have to jump through hoops, for my Appeal.
- Silencing, for the sake of silencing.
- Authoritianism
Oh the irony of this statement. Coming from the one who reports FREQUENTLY, yet somebody who says something ONCE (even if itâs a lie) is worse, I canât even! xD
And you NEVER specify those âthingsâ. You just hide behind vague statements.
You should apply that to yourself, too. 'Cause non-stop reporting, in hopes they get punished, falls under the same umbrella of harrassment.
I was promised the same courtesy, but it looks like they forgot about it, so I was still squelched. Then again, the time frame was pretty long from when I was promised compared to, when I got squelched.
Or, people like Aehl can cool it with their frequent reports over everyâŚlittleâŚthingâŚ
The irony of this post. If anything, youâre the hostile one, here. Canât come up with anything but ad hominems, yet you think those on the opposing side want to âget awayâ with harsh speech? LOL
I donât hate Aehl, I just think theyâre hypocritical. But I, too, have agreed with their viewpoint against âNaming and Shamingâ. However, I donât see eye to eye with them on the Squelching and FREQUENT reporting ordeal.
Iâm against ALL forms of bullying. However, I do not appreciate my speech being dictated merely because somebody doesnât want me to say X, Y and Z and hide it under the guise of âbroke policyâ yet can never specify WHICH Policy.
It is. I donât hate you, though. I may call you out, likewise you to me, but I donât hate you. We may be in a very rough disagreement 'cause youâre very sharp, but I donât hate you.
Hating someone is being kind?
I love you, too
No, just the Squelching.
Precisely why this thread exists
She said, in general (wasnât directed at anyone and after somebody already opened up the can of Trump worms) âI think he has been ok so far, I mean the world hasnât ended or anything.â Whether thatâs the full story, who knows? According to her post, that is what she claims, she said, that you, somehow, missedâŚjust like how thereâs no such rule as Blizz being able to âterminate your account, at any timeâ, but thatâs OK, weâre not all perfect.
IK you have difficulty reading and think youâre so clever in your snark, but you really gotta back yourself up with evidence, if youâre going to shred to pieces other posters. Not ONCE did she claim âshe didnât say a wordâ. Youâre making that up. Just like everything else you say.
And Iâm still waiting on the specific details that nobody can come up with. Just hiding behind vague descriptions to win the sympathy card.
I canât really finish my story because Iâm sure A) Youâll just report me and others will, too, when Iâm just trying to explain what happened. Thereâs no actual âviolationâ) being made and B) I feel like you want these stories to be re-told therefore itâs a trap/set-up to be squelched, again 
No, itâs called authoritarianism. One wrong move, anyone makes, you want them to be immediately punished, for it. That is asisine!
I do because my other friend, besides Squelch is Ignore.
I feel like youâre advocating for a pre-punish. You want a pre-silence, so you donât ever have to see words nor phrases, you donât like. Like some form of word block. IK, itâs on the forums (or at least used to), but I donât think it ever reached the Games. I could be wrong about that.
Again, Squelching doesnât mean one has broken the rules. It just means an X amount of people reported said individual. And if I can Appeal my Squelch, to where the GM explicitly states that I did nothing wrong, then those who reported me werenât reporting because I was, supposedly, âbreaking the rulesâ.
Just because you donât think something hasnât happened, doesnât mean that it canât. IDK about the ones falsely reporting me because Iâm still getting squelched, even though Iâve done nothing wrong, and the GM even agrees, and all of my appeals, go through.
Doesnât matter what you say, doesnât mean youâre right. You can say the sky is green, doesnât mean the sky is actually is green.
Kind of like frequent false reports, you do?
Same with you thinking that those who got squelched, deserved it -_-
I do agree, on some level, with this point. However, you keep trying to see whoâll blindly follow you, with all the nonesense you keep spewing. Especially, when it boiled down to the difference between âterminating an account, that violates ToSâ and âterminating an account, at any timeâ.
Arenât you practicing that same philosphy?
Yet, youâll never specify. You just continue to make vague statements.
Frequently reporting people IS pretty, though.
Look, Aehl, they just swore! Isnât that a reportable offense, for you?
Also, thereâs nothing âstrictâ about the rules, themselves. Itâs the players interpretations of which individual rule means what. And itâs different, for a lot of people.
And I donât see much difference between frequent reports, that isnât written down by you, and those that write down their own reports via âlistâ
Same as one who frequently reports. Again, the more you point at others, the more youâre projecting yourself.
Youâre just as guilty. Again, the irony.
Not to worry, we can always appeal them ;p