False reporting and automated ban

Is this really modern Activision-Blizzard? Might as well turn off all chat and just use Discord were human beings and not machines can moderate it.

Or be an adult and accept that there are things you cant say and are not allowed to say ingame.

You agreed to those terms when you logged in.

Remember?

Dont like it? Tough.

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Do you know what the number of reports required for an auto squelch is?

One single report may not cause a squelch. Johnny colluding with his friends and guild mates could easily cause that squelch, though.

How widespread it will be in classic remains to be seen.

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And then they’ll be punished for false reporting.

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How many of those guildmates are going to actually care enough to force a squelch because 1 person is wanting to abuse the system?

Have a heart my friend, we have come to an accord, imagine that,lol, have a good one:O)

That’s not true, especially if the person didn’t do anything wrong and had been abiding by all rules. Unless Blizz wants to get sued, then I guess they can be ban happy and REALLY lose their numbers…
:thinking:

Okay, fair enough. That was probably not my main argument, but thanks for pointing that out.

Anyway… I just ignore these people until they get banned, and I’ll probably never know or care.

Why do people talk like blacklists aren’t going to come with evidence and information of what a person did? If we can have it on OSRS you guys got no excuse to not be able to do the same.

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That’s not true, especially if the person didn’t do anything wrong and had been abiding by all rules.

Yes it is.

They can terminate your account at any time.

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Why do people talk like blacklists aren’t going to come with evidence and information of what a person did?

Evidence…Riighttttt…

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It’s almost like you’re on a device that can record and take pictures.

No: https://www.blizzard.com/en-us/legal/fba4d00f-c7e4-4883-b8b9-1b4500a402ea/blizzard-end-user-license-agreement

It says “if you violate this agreement, you can and WILL be terminated”. It doesn’t say “we reserve the right to terminate your account, at any time”.

What DOES get changed, at any time, is the agreement itself.

Uh think you replied to the wrong person.

Ziryus, listen, I get what you’re saying. There’s a lot of things players say in chat that I don’t like either, but I just don’t let it get me. I only ignore players if they are directly attacking me.

I guess I just understand that not everything that upsets me will upset everyone else. It shouldn’t be left up to me to decide their fate, when I can just ignore them.

You want, whatever it is they are doing to upset you, to stop. Ignoring make it stop for YOU. These people are not doing themselves any favors. I don’t know about you, but I won’t be inviting them to any groups.

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Sorry. I fixed the quote, but I dunno how to change the “Reply”, itself.

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It’s ok I know you undead aren’t very smart with your rotting brains and all.

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Braiiinnnsss…

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Both blacklists and auto-squelch are flawed, since people are flawed, but blacklists’ pros and cons fit perfectly in the community-oriented spirit of Classic WoW. Auto-squelch is antithetical to the spirit of Classic WoW.

  1. Naming and shaming allows the shamed player to argue against his accuser, sparking a debate that permits the accused, accuser, and witnesses to weigh in on the offense. It gets the community involved as well, in as much as the community cares to get involved.
    Auto-squelch is simply a set number of people right-click reporting; with no conversation and no option for the community to get involved. You can’t even talk about it, except in private settings, because Blizzard bans people for talking about reports against them.

  2. A blacklist isn’t forced on anyone; each individual must keep their own blacklist. For instance, I can choose to only blacklist players who screwed over my friends, or whose offense was properly proven in a forum post, or I can choose to not add players who are griefers but otherwise haven’t done anything wrong. A blacklist gives us player agency in handling our bad apples.
    Auto-squelch is forced upon the entire server unwillingly and unwittingly. I have no choice by to ignore the muted player regardless of the offense, or lack of one.

  3. Even if people start to blacklist you, you can still talk and get groups. The vast majority of the players on a server aren’t going to blacklist someone for a single incident unless it affected them or to someone close to them. Usually, only in cases where you’re a habitual offender will your reputation suffer to the point where you find it difficult to find groups or guilds, unless you take part in a particularly heinous act, like stealing from a guild bank.
    Auto-squelch essentially neuters your Classic experience because you can no longer talk to anyone, and you can only group with players through means outside of the game.

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What if I kill a streamer in PvP on a PvP server (breaks zero rules) and his whole stream reports me because they are upset and I get silenced. Well now I can’t talk or group, and since you can’t do anything in vanilla without talking and grouping, guess that means I am done with WoW for the night.

Working as intended?

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