False reporting and automated ban

And does nothing to prevent them from happening in the first place, or from impacting other people, or from impacting them indirectly when other people see said garbage and respond to it.

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All tools are able to be abused.

Bye.

Didn’t Dahmer use fridges? I guess we should outlaw fridges.

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Just going to say that you reported me on a thread like this for saying that it’s going to be fun “to corpse camp whiners” when Classic comes out. I got a one-day ban for that rated-G PVP talk.

So is this what you have in mind for the right-click report system? It’s a form of power where you get to report anyone who says anything slightly unpleasant?

That isn’t how vanilla is supposed to work. You resolve things through the community, not through an automated silencing/banning system. You make a server forum post about somebody you don’t like, pay other players to gank them, duel them and humiliate them, etc.

Guess you never imagined the system could be used against you, or against your friends or guild members as well? Racists will just move their racism to discord. Whether with autosilence/autoban or not they would never risk spamming racial slurs and the possibility of leveling another 60 for 2-3 months. Auto-silence and auto-ban will mostly impact people who talk like normal gamers. Like me, the dude in an interracial relationship who hasn’t said a single racist thing ever since WoW’s release, but who gets reported for using the word “whiner.”

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Discipline on the forums is different from discipline in game. Don’t deliberately conflate the two because you got your hand smacked and you want to pitch a temper tantrum.

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I’d be happier with less moderation than the automated system, personally.

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I used a calm, rational, relevant argument free of any hostility. I can’t say the same about what you just said. It sounds like you’re the one deliberately ignoring the facts and proceeding to write based on your conditional mood.

This seems like a common theme indeed, since I was calling out the above poster for using the insult “idiot,” which you conveniently ignored.

All of this perfectly demonstrates the flaws of an autoban autosilence system.

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THERE IS NO AUTOBAN in game, the report system doesn’t work that way. The ONLY thing automatic is the squelch, which takes quite a few people to make that happen.

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wtb 15 people to report a player, 1g each.

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Well I don’t play the game anymore but this is not my understanding. Google right click reporting rbgs. It won’t let me link posts from the older WoW forum.

they are trying to twist your words and insult you and then calling you childish.

kinda funny isnt it ? :frowning:

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A GM was not on hand to immediately ban the guy. He did something earlier, got reported, and the GM handled the ticket right then.

There have been posts like that for years. The most recent one I remember was 5 guys hopped into a Hive Mind and went on a PvP spree and one claimed he was banned for it. Turns out he was naughty in public chat and the GM just happened to handle the ticket and issue his punishment just after.

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Yeah, the twitter link proved nothing, just shows he got banned for a few days, how and why are pure conjecture on the twitter posters part. There are NO auto suspension or bans. A GM has to make those decisions and they investigate first.

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I see a popup that says someone was banned. I see no proof that it had anything to do with the report system.

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My bad if that’s the case.

Requires only 10 from our own in game tests; and the results are instant. Best part is, during testing no one will have to know we’re testing because if you don’t contest the silence, then no GM review is likely to take place.

Either way no matter what if we all scroll to the top of this thread and review. People who’re opposed to this system are numerous while people in favor of this system are few.

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Every single squelch is reviewed by a GM. The silence penalty is then either applied, or the squelch is undone.

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Either A: you know this is 100% correct, and they have the labor force capable of actually banning bot’s, trolls and gold spammers in a timely manner via old school reporting


OR

B: They don’t review the false reports at all, and only attend to contested squelches while relying heavily on their automation to carry them where labor is not needed.

If the answer is A: then simply reporting the spammers selling gold in chat would be just fine under the old system because a GM responds to every single ticket.

If the answer is B, then false reporting is going to be rampant as hell because the system to report is simple click to report, while the system to appeal is not so intuitive, instead those people will just bow out if they’re solo players driving them away from a game they can no longer play. If they’re in a guild then it does not matter as much, but the effective DDOS component will be incredibly destructive either way.

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All indications in the old system point to the fact that they in fact do not have the labor force to efficiently ban people who should be banned. And I strongly suspect they have always relied heavily on automated systems which is why we got right click reporting in the first place.

The only difference now is that right click reporting has even more teeth which means you should be extra careful in classic not to get squelched.

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people have seen/experienced or heard about how that kind of thing works out when applied in social settings and they’re getting tired of it. it’d be better to remove it and have the reports reviewed first. innocent until proven guilty for anything besides gold selling/real money transactions.

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