False reporting and automated ban

[Galdor-maelstrom (Galdor)]

@Mogar-stormrage

@Fesz-cenarius

That is a possibility.

It is also possible that I am incorrect in thinking that both the player imposed punishment of an auto squelch and the Blizzard imposed punishment of a silence were added at the same time. If so, then I apologize and concede the point.

You’re not incorrect. It was added in the Legion Pre-patch.

https://web.archive.org/web/20070528080211/http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/faq/squelch.html

Patch 2.1.0

Release date

May 22, 2007

• You are now able to right click a player name to report them to GMs.

[Elaice-blades-edge (Elaice)]

Report them to GMs

[Galdor-maelstrom (Galdor)]

Wow. You didn’t even read the link.

Amazing.

[Knocrogue-crushridge (Knocrogue)]

Ah, so it was only for spamming. They could totally just revert back to that system, then.
E: Basically because it would be easier to detect abuse. Since, it’s a simple question of if or not the person was spamming. Rather than the context of their joke.

[Elaice-blades-edge (Elaice)]

“You are now able to right click a player name to report them to GMs.”

It says nothing about squelching, only reporting people to GMs. It made a system already in the game more convenient (before you opened a ticket). It says nothing about squelching.

I played back then, if squelching were a thing, I can think of a dozen people who would not of been able to troll trade who constantly did.

[Galdor-maelstrom (Galdor)]

Wow. You didn’t even read the link.

AMAZING!

[Knocrogue-crushridge (Knocrogue)]

You got to click the “web.archive” link. Not the Patch 2.1.0 link.

[Elaice-blades-edge (Elaice)]

Much thanks.

The link points to European servers. Is this confirmed for NA ones? Because I saw trolls and SusanExpress spamming non-stop back then.

[Galdor-maelstrom (Galdor)]

Are we really going to go down this goalpost moving route? Where you try to claim that somehow this auto-squelch system was not put into NA until recently but existed in EU for nearly 12 years? Don’t even go there.

I’ve given the indisputable proof and I’m not obligated to do anything else. Continue to spread lies like Mogar, or just accept the facts.

[Knocrogue-crushridge (Knocrogue)]

I think it was in the game. I do definitely recall reporting gold spammers frequently back in the old days(and continued to whenever I saw them) with it.

[Elaice-blades-edge (Elaice)]

You have moved the goalpost plenty of times. First this was about silence penalties, then it was about silence itself, then it was about squelching.

Also US and EU servers have differences, I have played on both. Mostly due to regional laws.

[Galdor-maelstrom (Galdor)]

From the VERY first post, the OP. Thanks for trolling, please come again!

@Williams-akama

The automatic squelch system has no place in classic WoW, it’s as vile and destructive to the community as sharding.

[Fesz-cenarius]

@Galdor-maelstrom

https://giphy.com/gifs/mashable-l3q2K5jinAlChoCLS

From the VERY first post, the OP. Thanks for trolling, please come again!

@Williams-akama

The automatic squelch system has no place in classic WoW, it’s as vile and destructive to the community as sharding.

The automatic squelch system was never part of vanilla.

IMO, it is as vile and destructive to the community as sharding.

[Missuspowpow-proudmoore (Missuspowpow)]

There’s literally nothing confusing about it. Just read the previous post.

[Galdor-maelstrom (Galdor)]

Fesz quickly edited his post, as he usually fully reads what he’s responding to after he responds to it.

[Elaice-blades-edge (Elaice)]

Fine if we are going with technicalities. 2.1 is after 1.12 therefore it didn’t exist in vanilla. Can we agree on the following?

1: Reporting in vanilla required a “manual” ticket.

2: BC added an easier form of reporting. There is a high probability auto-squelch was added with this.

3: The system was highly inefficient as over the course of 10 years me nor anyone I know were ever squelched, nor could they get trolls or gold spammers to be so, no matter how many people reported them.

4: In 2016 Blizzard added considerably harsher punishments and automated the system.

I think we can conclude either Blizzard rolled back on the automatic aspect of squelching, or it was not on NA realms. Until 2016 where they automated it.

[Galdor-maelstrom (Galdor)]

I think we can conclude either Blizzard rolled back on the automatic aspect of squelching, or it was not on NA realms. Until 2016 where they automated it.

Is this the part where I link Blizzard posts concerning automatic squelches, every year from 2010 to 2016 to prove you wrong, again? Or do I just laugh and let you troll by yourself.

[Elaice-blades-edge (Elaice)]

I’m not trolling, and the sentence proves my point. People will get reported for “trolling” because they either have a “wrong” opinion, or are in error, which I will concede I must be. My point however, is that neither squelch nor silence were in classic, and squelch was extremely inefficient as myself nor anyone I know of suffered from it, nor could get it to work on trolls/spammers.

When all of trade chat reports reports “Engrish phrase come gets gold 14.99$ for 5k” and it’s not squelched, there is a problem with the system, or Blizzard undid the BC changes.

[Prufinnor-wyrmrest-accord]

Besides Asmondtroll’s video (which was manufactured outrage) I have seen very little if any actual cites, links or other from the anti-squelch crowd. A whole lot of feels, though.

I think it is time for your crowd to put up.

[Hypêrspace-dalaran (Hypêrspace)]

will never get the lost time or the lost opportunities back.

and … time is money friend.