Yep i dont speak in chat or in bg’s only callouts and i have never been banned or reported.
If 5 people in bgs dont like what you are saying they can report you its not worth it to talk in chat or bg’s
I normally talk in guild chat or if doing a dungeon and have never been reported.
I didn’t say that it’s extensively abused. Don’t put words in my mouth that I NEVER said. And, you cannot PROVE that abusers get punished. We’re talking about the effects it will have in Classic, good or bad.
Once again, just because the system has been in place for awhile doesn’t mean it cannot be changed. All you gotta do is look at the state of PvP Servers and the enforcement of Personal Loot. Things CHANGE!
A solution to a problem that CAN exist. You can’t prove that there won’t be, just like we can’t prove that there will be. We’re talking about a POSSIBILITY.
Now, what else you got?
I didn’t.
Ythisens said on his stream last night that people who abuse the right click report function, do in fact, get punished.
Why not just open a ticket and request a gm to un-mute you if you’ve been auto muted for no good reason?
At least you are honest enough to admit that anything other than having the option to conspire to with other a small number of players to silence (squelch) any other player at any time for whatever little slight you think you had to suffer. is unacceptable to you.
We all know that your goal is to do everything you can to see Classic made as far from vanilla as possible, though, so that is no surprise.
Your arguments would actually hold some value if everything you said wasn’t a personal affront and you didn’t surmise people’s intentions. Do you believe Blizzard is looking to make Classic as far from Vanilla as possible, as they’re the ones implementing these systems?
I’m sure upon steampiles of evidence 'cause I’d like to know if the ones that silenced me have been punished. There’s, also, posters that admit to Reporting, for the sake of SILENCING them (which is against the CoC), yet they’re still posting around… ![:thinking:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/thinking.png?v=6" ":thinking:")
Not EVERY abuser gets caught. Don’t feed me that garbage. There needs to be a stockpile of evidence, in order for THAT to happen. Meanwhile, the ones that they SILENCED is instaneous. It doesn’t equate.
Believe me, I have. The problem is, the abusers are still here because I don’t have the evidence to support my theory. It takes time. Meanwhile, we got those reporting for the sake of silencing, still going around.
That being said, if the Silence cannot be appealed, how can that person Group with others, if they cannot initiate Whispers to Strangers nor speak in the public channels? Along with trading their Goods?
You can be right click reported even if you never say a word in any chat and even if you are not on the same continent as the person reporting you, though.
Now we’re back where we started 'cause we’ve gone over this, already -_-
You should present a stockpile of evidence that this system will be a problem in Classic. Everything presented in this thread is supposition.
This whole subforum dedicated to Classic is Supposition, what are you talking about? It’s not JUST this thread. Either way, you can’t refute any of the points being made, some of them NOT Suppositions, so what else do you want?
Nor is a system where you can say whatever you want in chat.
I guess I’ve never said that anyone violating the rules (including trolling in chat channels) should not be reported and action taken against them.
Oh, that’s right. I DID say that. I said that any action taken against the offenders beyond reporting those offenders should be taken by BLIZZARD, not the players.
I guess I never suggested ways to address the response time (including priority escalation based on the number of tickets received) to tickets to help ensure that tickets are handled in a timely manner and offenders do not go unchecked for an “interminable amount of time”.
Oh, that’s right. I DID make those suggestions.
I guess I never suggested ways that the player imposed punishment of a squelch could be retained while making it harder for the system to be abused by raising the target report number that triggers that player imposed punishment.
Oh, that’s right. I DID make those suggestions, as well.
Feel free to propose a solution then?
Yup.
Did he say that all of the players that abuse the system are punished?
Did he say how they prove that abuse?
Tell us all how to get back the time we lost as a result of an unwarranted squelch, even after that squelch is overturned?
Why not just report someone for bad language or whatever and let a GM deal with it? Ignore them, and you never hear them again. The difference is innocent players can’t be abused by that system like they can with auto-squelch.
It takes 5 people in game right?why would 5 people just report a random person in gzme?unless that person is a big time twitch streamer i still see no issue with it.
When did I say that Blizzard was looking to make Classic as far from vanilla as possible?
I said that a particular poster wants to see Classic made as far from vanilla as possible.
There is a difference.