The problem with using the private servers as we all know even for those who have not played on them me, it’s obvious that the GM’s are often corrupt; that’s a big problem that impacts the community in a negative way.
Getting rid of trolls on the private realms is super hard too because there is no purchase price for license, nor is there any way to block these people from simply making a new level 1 troll account because its free… This is why the private realms are not a good analog for the chat side of things regarding the trolls…
My biggest concern is the use of the "Rights change"that requires the player be DC’d by AVTI servers before the removal of the right to speak is enacted. That DDOS like effect is extremely disruptive, especially in the World / BG’s where getting DC’d at the right time can truly break a group.
Several good ideas have been put forward to combat the trolls, and I agree people should not be trolling, but the present Squelch system just does not work out in Classic WoW because of the nature of the game.
What can be done to deal with trolls? Well some ideas have been put forth; but the player controlled Squelch is just game breaking because of how it works.
Yeah. It’s hilarious. That’s obviously a throwaway account, or a new account of someone that has been suspended. A level 70 with 2 posts…
's all good though. I’m just enjoying reading the back and forth in the thread and giving hearts to people I’m not used to giving hearts to.
With the layoff of so many game support and customer service positions, I have little doubt we will see most of the features that will reduce the work on the smaller GM/Customer support division.
Good post, and speaking as someone who played all through vanilla, it is spot on.
In regard to only squelching public channels until GM review, hell the pearl clutchers would not even support my proposal that only the channel the reported offense happened would be temp squelched.
That’s how you know they’re trolls. We repeatedly give them every opportunity for common sense squelch limitations, but they kick and scream and demand that there be no squelch, and have the nerve to call that a mature compromise, LOL! Not that it matters. No need to compromise with them because they hold none of the cards. They’re just gonna have to learn to deal.
Either, all four of you are lying or trying to save face. Because NONE of this has been mentioned until JUST NOW. Y’all were too busy nitpicking the Posters, NOW you’re throwing “suggestions” while still throwing shade?
If y’all weren’t too busy subtly throwing shade, it would’ve been heard more. Instead, the four of you HAVE to throw ad hominems, that your sincerity is not heard. So, let’s try this again, THIS time, try to have some constructive dialogue WITHOUT the ad hominems. Because that’s all I saw.
You’re trying to preach lies, here, and I’m NOT having that. If you’re gonna throw shade, be honest about it because haven’t seen the four of you give ANY kind of feedback other than personal attacks and repetitive retorts.
Hint: in two of these threads, within the body of my posts. edit: in fact the second time I posted it, Falanna actually quoted it and gave me a
I am not about to go back and search for it to present it to you. Consider my post above the third time I mentioned it.
Wow, nice new tactic you have got there melga, rather than admit you do not actually read entire threads you jump straight to accusing people of lying about making posts.
What is wrong with you?
Melt down and insult people calling them liars because you cannot manage to read threads, and then launch into accusing them of “personal attacks”. Really brings back fond memories of when I had the ability to put you on ignore.
If all you see are “personal attacks and repetitive retorts” then you are easily dismissed, the problem lying squarely with your lacking capacity to communicate with others. Seek help.
Those four people want to conceal the fact that each and every “suggestion” they have offered still includes a player imposed punishment system that is very easy to abuse and allows them the option to conspire to with other a small number of players to silence (squelch) any other player at any time for whatever little slight they think they had to suffer. They will consider any “compromise” that does not include that player imposed punishment system that is very easy to abuse and allows them the option to conspire to with other a small number of players to silence (squelch) any other player at any time for whatever little slight they think they had to suffer. They have the nerve to call their insistence that they have the option to conspire to silence (squelch) any other player at any time for whatever little slight they think they had to suffer “mature compromises”? LOL
Numerous suggestions have been made that would go a long way toward making the system harder to abuse. These suggestions include:
A) suggestions that would remove the player imposed penalty while addressing the “ticket response time” in an effort to ensure that tickets are answered in a timely fashion
and also
B) suggestions that would retain the player imposed punishment system while making the system harder to abuse by raising the target report number to trigger that player imposed punishment significantly
Not one of these suggestions has been acceptable to those four because they do not include that player imposed punishment system that is very easy to abuse and allows them the option to conspire to with other a small number of players to silence (squelch) any other player at any time for whatever little slight they think they had to suffer.
Dude, a) NOTHING was “concealed” and b) the bolded half is not clever no matter how many times you copy-paste it. You handful of detractors and alts are simply making your side look more and more absurd.
It is “not clever” because it is not an argument against anything that has been stated. No one has stated that the system is void of ability to abuse, nor has anyone stated that squelch was not a punishment. Repeatedly copy pasting your windmill makes it no less boorish and idiotic.
It is a dumb tagline akin to “cooked to perfection” or “this changes everything”.
Not at all shocked that neither you nor Melga actually addressed the proposed compromise (which was limited to a player triggered squelch for ONLY the PUBLIC channel the reported violation occurred), but rather went directly to the extremist position that violators should get a free pass until a GM gets around to actioning them.
Please point to my specific post where I turned my nose up at such a compromise. I’ll wait. I’ll also rank that up with calling other posters liars as Melga has done, due to a lack of reading everything or a lack of comprehension. Blizzard themselves have been unwilling to give hard numbers because of this lawyering, and there may very well be a diminishing number to trigger based on prior offenses.
I’m not at all shocked that you insist upon having the option to conspire to with other a small number of players to silence (squelch) any other player at any time for whatever little slight they think they had to suffer.
“Johnny is using /trade for something other than the buying or selling of goods or services. Let’s mass report him to squelch him and ‘teach him a lesson’.”
"I’m lovin’ it," No one has stated that the system is void of ability to abuse, nor has anyone stated that squelch was not a punishment. Repeatedly copy pasting your windmill makes it no less boorish and idiotic.
Nice insinuation that I would do such a thing or that I think that it would be OK to do so.
On a personal note i have never been reported for anything in game however i can see it being a problem for twitch streamers there is no arena in classic wow so i dont see an issue with it.
The truth is that the auto-squelch has been in use for a decade and hasn’t been extensively abused. People that do abuse it are punished and it’s not going to be the issue you’re making it out to be, in Classic.
A solution to what? There can’t be a solution to a problem that will not exist.
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