ah, no wonder almost everyone here hates it
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Except it actually is. Short of Blizzard having a change of heart, the mage tower is very much designed to be beaten only by the best players. Even up to the last day it was available and we were at our then strongest, most could not complete it even if you gave them absolute BIS gear because there is an extremely high degree of mechanical perfection expected.
It’s likely meant to be harder now purely because we don’t even have the tools we had back then (legendaries and artifact weapon/perks).
oh please. i just nuked the bosses down for the shadow challenge. to this day i don’t even know what the mechanics were because they didn’t matter. i was a better player then than i am now, but i wasn’t anything special.
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Shadow is what? Twins? I never did it as Shadow, but my understanding is, asides from Agatha, Twins was the easiest challenge (and Agatha was only easy because of the cheese which Blizzard has fixed).
It still doesn’t mean that people were facerolling them by and large. I would very much believe though that the challenges back then are objectively easier than now though simply because gear did make things easier when it came to meeting DPS checks and we had legendaries and borrowed power helping instead of just being a static bundle of stats with nothing else.
the only ones i ever did while it was mostly current was healers, the rest i did in 7.3 with higher ilvl gear. I will say i actually thing the shaman one is tuned a bit harder than pally, the mage absolutly one shots my team but as pally it does not.
Not really since you can use other “legacy” items
These are the stuff you cant use in MT
> ***https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2607769-Patch-9-1-5-Legion-Timewalking-Mage-Tower-Spell-Restrictions?p=53432230#post53432230***
So again unless they did something during the ptr and now you can use legion items
To put my voice out there, I think it’s overtuned too. I understand these aren’t a cake walk, and it may take a few days, but right now it feel a bit too hard. Way harder then I remember in legion.
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This says otherwise:
" Restricted List of Abilities/Gear
Although most gear popular in Timewalking can be used for the Mage Tower challenge, some items and abilities have been deliberately disabled as they would significantly cheapen the challenge in itself. Abilities listed below will be disabled inside the Mage Tower. Pieces of gear listed below can be equipped inside the Mage Tower, but the special effects that makes that gear good will be disabled as well.
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All Shadowlands Covenant-related effects (Covenant Abilities, Soulbinds, Conduits)
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All Shadowlands Legendary Gear effects
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All Shadowlands Shards of Domination effects
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All Battle for Azeroth Azerite effects (Azerite Gear and Traits, Azerite Essences)
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All Legion Legendary effects (these were already tagged as Legacy content but will not be returning for the Mage Tower)
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All Warlords of Draenor Legendary Ring effects
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All Mists of Pandaria Legendary Meta Gem effects
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All Tier Set Bonuses
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Previous Legendary Items effects (
Ashjra’kamas, Shroud of Resolve, 
Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa’s Rest, 
Val’anyr, Hammer of Ancient Kings, etc)"
How would you know if its overtuned or not then? I’ve been at it for a bit and it seems overtuned to me
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That is the way it was in Tomb of Sargeras heroic ilv, is not even the hardest iteration of the challenge.
Someone needs to post an unfair warning.
When I did this in Legion I could at least survive comet storm. Once my shell and Frostwyrm are on CD it’s gg
I decided to give it a look when I got home from work.
I beat it in Legion 3iLev under the recommended iLev of the time. (Many attempts were made of course). I had learned a lot about Holy priest doing it too. I’d argue it made me a bit better.
I was however not prepared for my cc to last 5s instead of its duration like it did in Legion, nor was I prepared for this mage to two shot every NPC they targeted.
It was quite comical XD
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I got the staff appearance with my warlock back in legion, and i don’t know if i will be able to get the set, the challenge is overtuned, i tested it in ptr and it wasn’t.
You shouldnt be allowed to post on the forums.
Ahh yes… because doing content means i have to go back to older content to be able to actually do it properly, what a joke this company is
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Just completed the ret challenge and can confirm it’s definitely overtuned. I did this back in legion when mage tower first came out and day 1 was easier compared to day 1 in TW.
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Yeah that’s kind of why borrowed power sucks, we don’t keep it.
Are you being intentionally dense?
Well… at least I know you being dense wasn’t intentional…
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And it is.
I completed one today off of a fluke enchant and taking off my 252 weps for heirloom weapons with a gimmicky heal enchant. This is overtuned coming from someone who did the overtuned version.
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