Faerlina Full at 2:30 PM, Sigh

[Versath-bloodsail-buccaneers]

Just curious about the end solutions.

Transfer is the end solution.

[Brother-deviate-delight]

That’s not what layers do.

Layers help with spreading out the existing population by dividing them into separate phases of ~3000 or so. They do not add to the total population cap.

Say the cap is 30k for a server, that would be insane if there were that many people in one place, so Blizzard spreads them across 10 different versions of Azeroth so you can actually quest without 15000 other people trying to kill the same bears.

The server population cap remains the same.

[Chunklebutts-senjin]

Must be a rough queue life being a braindead streamer fanboy.

[Jessabrina-thrall]

Layers help with spreading out the existing population by dividing them into separate phases of ~3000 or so. They do not add to the total population cap.

Agreed

That’s not what layers do.

What?

[Brother-deviate-delight]

The person that I was replying to said layers add to the population cap, so i was explaining that is not how layers work.

[Ragefist-stalagg]

Yes they do… the whole point of layers is to have one dedicated layer run on a single PC. I’m pretty sure several server racks power a single realm.

It’s multihreading efficiency

Just because this game is from 2004, doesn’t mean we’re still in 2004 technology wise. Who the hell still uses physical servers anymore? Everything is based on cloud computing these days.

Anyone who works in the IT industry could tell you this.

[Jessabrina-thrall]

They go hand in hand btw. Increase in population cap = increase in layers.

[Derka-sulfuras]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hnewman/2019/08/26/warcraft-classic-layering-and-realm-queues-ion-hazzikostas-explains-why-youre-waiting-to-log-in/#4f20afa57e45

Really? So when Ion talks in this post-launch interview specifically about starting zones, questing and how untenable life would be if layers weren’t around…he’s not actually talking about those things? He’s just being an argumentative edge-lord, right?

Edit: this wasn’t a post-launch interview; it was only published post-launch.

[Holycow-uldaman]

@Brother-deviate-delight

Say the cap is 30k for a server, that would be insane if there were that many people in one place, so Blizzard spreads them across 10 different versions of Azeroth so you can actually quest without 15000 other people trying to kill the same bears.

The server population cap remains the same.

If the server population cap remains the same, why do the queues explode when they turn off layering?

@Kaivax

Raising realm caps would simply forestall the problem, letting more players in at launch but creating an unsustainable situation down the line, with severe queues when we turn off layering permanently before Phase 2 of our content unlock plan.

Is it possible that they also reduce the server population cap when they remove layers? Maybe there’s some sort of connection between the two?

[Chalupa-grobbulus]

It’s almost like they warned you about this before the game even went live. You made your bed. Now you can lay down and cry in it.

[Skoosh-thalnos]

If you’re not moving stop complaining. I’m so sick of these entitled people complaining about queues but REFUSE to move. They gave us character migration. Either use it or please shut your mouth. You have an option you entitled freakin baby

[Rocksalot-herod]

People on this board are jealous of Faerlina and Herod players you will get no sympathy here. Log on to Herod in about an hour and whisper me and I will teach you how to beat this raid boss.

[Jessabrina-thrall]

He’s just being an argumentative edge-lord, right?

I guess so. Your god, ion, is fallible.

But I, personally, would say that’s your projection of yourself.

[Tuskamus-area-52 (Tuskamus)]

Is it possible that they also reduce the server population cap when they remove layers?

You can’t win. The people that think layers are not related to server caps are the flat earthers of WoW.

[Jessabrina-thrall]

Lol. That’s totally it

Can you imagine how screwed up it would be to see 30,000 people on a single layer bEcAuSe ThE tWo ArE nOt CoNnEcTeD

[Romulus-kurinnaxx]

Just because this game is from 2004, doesn’t mean we’re still in 2004 technology wise. Who the hell still uses physical servers anymore? Everything is based on cloud computing these days.

uhh… You can rent dedicated EC2 instances from AWS. it’s expensive but you pay a premium for it usually.

And when you rent a regular EC2 instance today, they just provide you with a dashboard interface to let you SSH into your server to install your stuff. It’s barely any different from 2004 aside from the annoying part where you need to buy a static IP address from your ISP.

[Brother-deviate-delight]

That’s exactly right, the plan is to lower realm population caps to more manageable sizes for phase 2, so when phase 2 hits, queues are probably going to explode for servers like Faerlina or Herod unless a LOT of people leave.

[Hexxes-malganis (Hexxes)]

@Kaivax

With hotfixes that we are currently deploying to all WoW Classic realms, we are substantially increasing the number of players that can be simultaneously logged in and playing. We expect this to result in smaller queues for realms that have large queues, and some realms should no longer have queues at all.

We will closely monitor performance and stability throughout this process.

Thank you very much.

When people say layers are being removed thus lowering the server pop cap this is what they are referring to.

• Blizzard increased the maximum server pop caps.

• This is seen as additional layers.

• When they lower the cap they are removing layers.

• This is why players are seeing the layers they are in become more populated (because there are now less layers).

[Döt-grobbulus]

Everything is based on cloud computing these days

Those “cloud computers” are still physical servers sitting on a rack in a data center. They just aren’t owned by whoever is leasing them.

[Eldotdiablo-tichondrius]

Time is different where you are in the globe. Thats why we have time zones. Just because its 2 pm your time does not mean that there are other people, who arent in your time zone, who are trying to play as well.

You are also welcome at any point to transfer servers and avoid this “problem”