We don;t speak of She who Thirsts around these places
According to one Dreadlord, Night elf virgins were in short supply. Now, that extends to their whole race. Also, I donât think Blizzard saw fit to remove that.
Whoâs that?
Itâs what the Eldar call Slaanesh
Giving up a piece of land thatâs barely inhabited by elves in exchange for peace is a bad idea?
The only reason why it failed is because blizzard needed another faction war.
Tyrande alone isnât going to be considered a future for the Night Elves, but thanks for your input.
I believe the Alliance would do the same as they did the last time where the Horde killed 99% of Night Elves, which would result in the last handful of Night Elves to also end up dying.
It doesnât seem to be in Night Elf control either, especially with Rexxar and Zekhan roaming around freely.
Well, the Horde did kind of cheer for the Burning of Teldrassil and tried to kill every Night Elf they could find (especially the civilians).
Then after the genocide, they still tried to kill the remaining few in Darkshore.
Renewal couldâve happened if the souls werenât obliterated. And Blizzardâs definition of renewal is forgiving and forgetting their abusers, but not so much actual renewal like getting their people back, repairing their lands etcâŚ
Well, far more than 95% were obliterated, and those few that we did save donât get revived either since Blizzard completely ignores the topic in 9.2.
Because the patch is live already on PTR and there is literally nothing related to Night Elves or their souls. We only have that stupid cutscene where Tyrande has to forgive Sylvanas or whatever.
It doesnât feel good for me either, to see hopeful Night Elf Players and just knowing that all their hopes will eventually equal to nothing and that Blizzard will just either ignore Night Elves or make them suffer a bit more in the future.
They wonât have Tyrandeâs experience, just a first-hand story told. Plus, who knows what happened in the Dark Lands. They say that Anduin became a death knight and served the same person as Sylvanas, he is a priest of Light and Darkness, priests know how to control their minds ⌠In general, long live conspiracy theories and the attempted murder of the manipulator King! And everyone who hurt us.
Blip.
Why would the night elves try to forgive Sylvanas rather than kill her on the spot? Sylvanasâ forgiveness does nothing to stop Tyrande from indulging the wishes of her people.
It doesnât look like there will be anything they could do. Sylvanas will be judged by the Arbiter.
Um ⌠But sheâs not dead yet. What is the point of judging a living one who will continue to live?
Tyrande may well escort Sylvanas to the Arbiterâs trial, demonstratively executing her.
She could die beforehand, and then be judged by the Arbiter, or maybe judged alive in a special case. Either way, the Night Elves arenât going to get revenge on her.
Compared to the Forsaken losing the Undercity on their own terms.
What for? Why not kill one of the night elf massacre leaders?
The Alliance helped evacuate civilians that time. Nowadays, after the first genocide happened, why would the Alliance let a second one happen?
They arenât roaming around freely. They are being careful of the Night Elves.
The death camp in Darkshore was removed in beta, I heard?
Not all of them were obliterated. We killed a shade full of Night Elf souls, and it was unfortunate. Many are still stuck in the Maw and need to be saved. Also, weâre talking about living Night Elves, not souls.
You donât know how many were obliterated, and we donât know the full story in 9.2. We just have three quest chapters.
Again, the full story hasnât been released. Also, they may talk about it next expansion.
I hope you arenât right about that.
Which leaders? Belmont, for example?
I meanâŚas a worgen player/fanâŚI can relate to her last sentiment on so many levels.
The Alliance helped evacuate civilians that time. Nowadays, after the first genocide happened, why would the Alliance let a second one happen?
Congratulations, the night elves are eternal refugees to Stormwind. âWhy go back to your forests when you are always killed there? Stormwind is ready to provide you with anything - work, shelter, clothing - except for military assistance.â
Which leaders? Belmont, for example
He is just a leading executive. However, he can also be killed. Isnât he that character from the (death camp) sawmill that Tyrande, for some reason, didnât kill, but froze?
His leader, Sylvanas, will also be killed.
The Alliance helped evacuate civilians that time. Nowadays, after the first genocide happened, why would the Alliance let a second one happen?
Actually Night Elves evacuated themselves.
And what will the Alliance do to avoid the next genocide? Occupy Orgrimmar?
The Alliance helped evacuate civilians that time. Nowadays, after the first genocide happened, why would the Alliance let a second one happen?
Because they already let a second one happen since the first one was Garroshâs.
Also, the Night Elves hardly make for a people anymore with their dwindling numbers, so killing a bunch of Night Elves might already do the job and make them extinct.
They arenât roaming around freely. They are being careful of the Night Elves.
Thereâs still no reason to assume that Ashenvale isnât contested currently, and with the Horde wanting them dead and the fact that the Night Elves canât defend themselves anymore, I also donât see why the Night Elves would have full control of the zone.
The death camp in Darkshore was removed in beta, I heard?
They still had Horde members using defeared Night Elves as target practise throwing spears at them.
Not all of them were obliterated. We killed a shade full of Night Elf souls, and it was unfortunate. Many are still stuck in the Maw and need to be saved.
And they arenât saved. Not in 9.0, not in 9.1, and as we now know, also not in 9.2. They intentionally ignored this.
Also, weâre talking about living Night Elves, not souls.
If there was actual renewal, then the souls couldâve been freed and revived by Elune, but renewal only means forgiving your abusers.
You donât know how many were obliterated, and we donât know the full story in 9.2. We just have three quest chapters.
None of the other chapters have anything to do with the Night Elf SoulsâŚ
Again, the full story hasnât been released. Also, they may talk about it next expansion.
Why would they talk about the Night Elf souls in the next expansion? Thatâs a plot thread that wouldâve been resolved in this expansion⌠which it didnât since they wanted to imply their obliteration.
I hope you arenât right about that.
I know that Iâm right about that, because I have been right about this every single time in the past.
I donât have the heart to argue anymore. I will just say that you may be right.
In light of the lawsuit, a lot of the BfA stuff, and then Shadowlands, reads⌠really weirdly. You have the Night Elves, and Tyrande, doing basically everything right, trusting their allies, trusting that a former commander of united faction forces will take care of their people as the victor of the war, believing their allies will help them, etc.
At every turn, theyâre disappointed. And so Tyrande gets angry, and the story consistently frames her as being the one in the wrong for wanting vengeance. Every single step towards reprisal is met with hollow victories and constant references to her âgoing down a dark pathâ. The very mindset the story praised Illidan for in Legion is now considered âbad and dangerousâ.
Itâs really, really offputting.
I donât have the heart to argue anymore. I will just say that you may be right.
I wish I wasnât, but it always turns out the worst way for Night Elves unfortunately