What changed from PTR that disappointed you?
You were talking about feedback in both.
Don’t backpeddle now because you contradicted yourself in 2 posts.
No, I would probably have been upset further while still seeing no changes to what upset me in the first place.
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Remember when they promised us that they’d communicate more frequently?
Crickets…
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Ya, this is the issue I was alluding to.
People were losing their minds about the ghoul stuff, and it really just flipped this event over before it even started.
Which is a shame to me, because the entire goal of the event was to make people fear ghouls and the scourge in general.
Now it feels like nothing at all happened.
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Yeah thats a big part of it. The vendor has nothing of lasting value outside the broom and geist, and the daily quests give a pittance of currency despite being outdated recycled wrath dailies. The whole thing being time sensitive puts me off though it is nice to be able to see that bronjam will be up in like 5 hours.
I also don’t think its right to put the blame on free testers who have no obligation to put in a full professional sweep of the ptr, because they aren’t paid to do that and who wants to ruin their experience of the prepatch for a game they pay for monthly? Especially since some of these issues aren’t things that could be done with feedback like the complaints about how much content was recycled, or the mog sets.
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I am not, and I do not see those statements as a contradiction, but every time I refresh this thread there are 5 more replies so I am having trouble keeping up.
The first comment was about covenants being so hotly discussed it forced Blizzard to nerf their power to the ground, such that having NO COVENANT is only a few hundred DPS less than having any of the options. This is ironically what players were directly asking for without realizing it, just like covenants were what people were asking for without realizing it when they were talking about Player Agency 2 years ago.
That’s the problem with this game’s development now.
They have let the community dictate it too frequently, but the community doesn’t understand what the goals of systems are early enough to develop them, and it disagrees with itself too often to be useful.
The second comment was about not being surprised by what you got from a prepatch event when you could have seen it 3 months ago.
Different subjects in my mind.
But my mind is a mess at this point, so sorry for the confusion.
they call it “communication” I guess they are constantly nerfing covenant abilities and legendaries in some desperate attempt to close the stupid gap between powers of each covenant…
there’s still a dominant one for a bunch of specs so for now they are failing and legendaries still don’t feel legendary…
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We expect content to be up to par with exisiting content. That is a fair enough expectation.
It’s not our job to jump on the PTR to see if we like upcoming content.
Of course you wouldn’t…
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Sorry I’m late. You still need the popcorn?
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That’s the point of the thread though, right?
If you followed the development of the content you could have been more productive with this conversation.
If you want to hide from it to avoid spoilers, that’s fine, but you do sacrifice some voting privileges in doing so.
I want people to realize that clearly.
Be upset during the PTR and things will change, as you saw with the Ghoul portion of the event.
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I wouldn’t because they are not even on the same topic.
You might feel differently though if out of 91 of the replies, 45 of them were at you.
Sorry I’m not perfect but I try my best to keep up with everything being said to the best of my ability.
No, they could have just been disappointed 3 months ago. 
Disappointing content isn’t the problem, not properly timing our disappointment is the problem. Clearly.
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Not your job no, but if you are going to forgo that right then you should also realize what needs to change if you wish things to be molded differently.
This topic is one of people who wish to not spoil themselves and not be disappointed at the same time, but that is not the reality of how this games works, and the player has the potential to fix that themselves if they were active.
It is, in this case yes.
Because everyone is reacting to it way too late for anything productive to happen.
Because its not an option.
Its like trying to convince car manufactures to stop making cars faster.
Its one of the main features of the system, and its not going away.
The choice to make item drops weak and therefore make the event pointless for many is one issue - but gutting the scourge invasion via ghouls was clearly a case of blizzard giving up to vocal complainers again while those of us who enjoyed the PTR scourge event didn’t make that clear enough.
It’s mediocre game design, sure. But a real problem as has been pointed out is actually that they listened to feedback - but the overwhelming majority of us that wanted something different didn’t say so.
Thus showing they don’t listen to feedback.
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Odd to have both the company and the company liaisons both struggling to admit flaws in their arguments…
…ahhhhh who am I kidding, right?
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Play as programmed and that should be enough of feedback that they need. Just play it. Have fun.
So sorry did you see bugs?
No…
Yes…
Thanks for playing.