Expect an incredibly rushed WOTLK launch timeline

[Borghul-arugal]

well to be honest, the devs always listen to the smallest amount of people complaining, i.e the LFD complainers, the spuds that wanted no Dual speccing etc.

[Elicitation-tichondrius]

@Zugfox-wyrmrest-accord

I hate Blizzard as much as the next guy but let’s stay factual. Blizzard has been hiring en masse for Classic development; there were and still are MANY postings for this team on their website, so they obviously have more than 2 guys in a broom closet working on this.

I believe developping SoM was more of the focus but that turned out to be a disaster as well. My guess is that it’s taking time to shift development back to WOTLK.

Honestly though, the core of the issue is the lack of communication with the playerbase and not necessarily that they are having a hard time with development. If Blizzard were more transparent, all this would be easily forgiveable.

They haven’t hire anyone, you can go to their career page, I have no idea where people get this information from “there’s a large classic team”

They actually have less people than they did for 2019 vanilla classic launch…

[Solypsis-benediction]

and why should we take anything you say seriously you literally have no idea just like the rest of us so stop pretending you’re something more than you are

[Korukwarr-grobbulus]

i think TBCs time frame was good even with wrath 3 months per phase is more than enough time to clear all the content

[Silika-pagle]

@Deathsbounty-area-52

As the beta has rolled out to become an absolute disaster

Can you elaborate on that please? I’ve been on beta for over a week now and other than small bugs…I havent noticed game breaking stuff so far.

[Deathsbounty-area-52]

DKs are busted and the LFG tool is abysmal.

[Bankocraptri-faerlina]

Maybe bc blizzard is trying to change things that people don’t want. Leave LFD instead of making some crap nobody wants and wasting resources. Next all wow characters will be gender neutral and then I am out

[Griswald-trollbane]

Yeah, I’d say you’re right about this.

I’d argue they even rushed TBC, and the 2 week pre patch was a result of that. The game wasn’t really ready for launch and numerous early problems with the game could have been avoided.

[Deathsbounty-area-52]

100% body 1 and 2 is coming to classic ASAP.

[Bloomsday-sulfuras]

@Deathsbounty-area-52

Expect a 2 week prepatch (MAYBE 3), and the XP buff of probably the same amount, only live during prepatch.

That’s fine. I don’t see that as rushed at all. Why would a pre-patch need to be much longer than that?

[Piezuri-benediction]

@Bloomsday-sulfuras

That’s fine. I don’t see that as rushed at all. Why would a pre-patch need to be much longer than that?

I dunno. I had to rush to 60 so I could enjoy TBC when it launched, and that was 3 weeks.

Can’t we enjoy prepatch’s changes at 70, and not feel rushed?

[Deathsbounty-area-52]

Because A. they said it would be longer than that and B. not everyone can power level a 55 DK to 70 in 14 short days.

[Bloomsday-sulfuras]

@Piezuri-benediction

I had to rush to 60 so I could enjoy TBC when it launched, and that was 3 weeks.

That’s on you. The pre-patch length isn’t really designed around whatever obscure goals you want to achieve during it’s lifespan.

@Piezuri-benediction

Can’t we enjoy prepatch’s changes at 70, and not feel rushed?

I know I can. Why would you feel rushed with only 3 weeks?

@Deathsbounty-area-52

Because A. they said it would be longer than that

Ok, and?

@Deathsbounty-area-52

B. not everyone can power level a 55 DK to 70 in 14 short days.

So then don’t? You know you can level a DK to 70 throughout Wrath’s entire lifespan, right? There’s no need to rush.

There’s no need to obsess over finishing all of the content as soon as possible. We will have Classic Wrath for over a year. You have time.

[Deathsbounty-area-52]

Going to quote Bluster, a WoW Community Council Member from May 2nd.

When being asked why nobody likes Bloomsday, they responded.

"He has a history here. He’s spent years playing contrarian on the arena forums while also pretending to be something he’s not. Like constantly referencing getting r1 (with class combinations that don’t match any known r1s), saying he’s a scarab lord, constantly talking about some imaginary businesses he’s so busy running and making millions on.

It’s all basically nonsense, but he’s figured out how to skirt the line on the rules and the mods that look at his posts don’t seem to try to look for a pattern, they look at the single posts reported which, taken each by themselves might not look like trolling, but it is. His whole persona is trolling and has been for years here and on the classic forums."

Ahhh love it.

[Piezuri-benediction]

@Bloomsday-sulfuras

That’s on you. The pre-patch length isn’t really designed around whatever obscure goals you want to achieve during it’s lifespan.

But it was supposed to be longer, and Blizzard did say the prepatch was also so people could level draenei/blood elves.

I know I can. Why would you feel rushed with only 3 weeks?

We were talking about another 2 week prepatch (or less). I wouldn’t feel rushed personally, but I know a lot of people enjoy the PvP and even PvE during this time.

Ok, and?

So, it’d be a lie.

So then don’t? You know you can level a DK to 70 throughout Wrath’s entire lifespan, right? There’s no need to rush.

There’s no need to obsess over finishing all of the content as soon as possible. We will have Classic Wrath for over a year. You have time.

It’s almost like people have friends and want to play with their friends, instead of being isolated in TBC while everyone else is enjoying day 1 Wrath.

Day 1 of any expansion - especially in Classic - are a huge amount of fun and are time sensitive.

[Bloomsday-sulfuras]

@Piezuri-benediction

But it was supposed to be longer, and Blizzard did say the prepatch was also so people could level draenei/blood elves.

Right, and you could level your draenei, could you not? I don’t recall them saying it was so you could level your draenei all the way up to 60. That was misplaced entitlement on your part.

@Piezuri-benediction

I wouldn’t feel rushed personally

Great, so what’s the issue then?

@Piezuri-benediction

So, it’d be a lie

Oh right, anytime something changes from its original intent, it’s a lie to you. Is that the world you live in? It’s not possible that something could come up and change their original plan?

@Piezuri-benediction

It’s almost like people have friends and want to play with their friends,

Pre-patch being 3 weeks or less does not suddenly remove your ability to play with friends.

I’m not sure how you’ve managed to convince yourself that a 3 week pre-patch = your friends no longer playing with you.

[Bloomsday-sulfuras]

So you resort to this since your arguments have been dismantled?

Yeah, I’m sure that’ll convince Blizzard. Best of luck.

[Killèr-benediction]

Oh the pronouns for characters are 100% coming in the future

[Deathsbounty-area-52]

Nope, just providing context as to why there is no point in even talking to you.

Good day.

Arena Forums Town Hall: Community, Rhetoric, and Ethics

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[Piezuri-benediction]

@Bloomsday-sulfuras

Right, and you could level your draenei, could you not? I don’t recall them saying it was so you could level your draenei all the way up to 60. That was misplaced entitlement on your part.

Blizzard isn’t going to hire you just because you brown nose them.

Great, so what’s the issue then?

It’s something called empathy. You should try it sometime.

Oh right, anytime something changes from it’s original intent, it’s a lie to you. Is that the world you live in? It’s not possible that something could come up and change their original plan?

If they state one thing, and then change that (especially with zero communication), then that’s a lie. It’s not as serious as a contract, but they are the company and they should strive to maintain professionalism.

Maybe communicating would help if they have to change their plan instead of leaving us in the dark.

Pre-patch being 3 weeks or less does not suddenly remove your ability to play with friends.

I’m not sure how you’ve managed to convince yourself that a 3 week pre-patch = your friends no longer playing with you.

Once again completely sidestepping (or outright missing) the point. I had to bumrush to 60 during prepatch because A) I wanted to play with my friends at TBC launch, and B) I wanted to play my Shaman, my new main. That meant I couldn’t enjoy prepatch at all, and that was with near no-lifing it.

For Wrath prepatch, the time constraints are much less, but there’s still the issue of wanting to play with friends. 3 weeks would be a good length in my opinion - longer than TBCC prepatch - but Blizzard has already given a specific time frame for it.