We’re not talking about Holy Paladins or MW Monks. Again you’re getting off topic JUST like Fauxstrasza lol. Just shows how flimsy your argument is.
For the record though, Holy Paladins literally need to use Crusader Strike to get Holy Power - of course they’re gunna be in melee lol. But again, we’re talking about Evokers - not Paladins. Is that clear? Evokers don’t have anything like Crusader Strike or MW Fistweaving that requires them to be in melee. Our kit pushes us to be in melee more than not though and most people don’t like that =)
Since it seems only you and Faux “like” the range and everyone else hates it, I think it’s fair to say you lose. No one cares about your opinion.
You mentioned spellcasters yourself, of which they are both included. You’ve already proven your ability to argue is about on par with your ability to play this class.
You mean besides the class designers that share it, and all the other players that aren’t in the vocal minority throwing tantrums on forums?
No, our kit pushes us to be in mid range and flexible with our positioning due to our mobility, but you’re too dense to recognize that as a thing.
Also, you don’t represent “most people”, nor do you have any data to support that.
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Copy/paste cause it still applies:
"Almost everything else this guy and people who go along with him say are not opinions, they are lies. They competely ignore objective reality to stroke their own ego. News flash: fighting against grievances about a video game to be toxic positiviy correctionist doesnt make you look mature, it makes you a fool.
The fact remains: Being “midrange” in wow is inarguably a drawback with no benefit. Until that changes, anyone who supports it is wrong by default, because it is incorrect to design any element of a game that way."
There is no “mid range” in this game. You are melee or you are ranged. This is 100% fact. Evokers are not tagged and targeted by “mid range” mechanics. They are not chosen by groups as a “mid range” dps. Slapping a name on an arbitrary weakness doesnt magically make it a real part of WoW systems.
Evokers are ranged like any other ranged spec and are considered as such…except for some reason they have a good bit less range. If they had started with a 40 yard range, or got it now, it wouldn’t baloon into some wild balance nightmare or have some insane butterfly effect. It would just…put them where the other ranged specs are. Not sure why some people act like thats asking for some massive buff. Its just parity, and a hefty bit of QoL also.
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You keep saying this, but it’s a considerable buff to just add 15 yards of range lol. If you don’t understand that, you shouldn’t even be talking.
The concept of parity has never existed in this game. Stop expecting it.
If we were targeted by midrange mechanics, you’d be here crying about that too.
Where would mid range mechanics go if the raid didn’t have evokers?
You’re just saying words, not making points. Just because you think you need 40 yards to play the DPS specs well doesn’t mean people want to take the inevitable dps hit just so they can lower the skill floor for players that don’t understand how to use our mobility to its full potential.
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Preservation stonks rising. Reso sphere buff, and incoming grace period buff.
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Dev buffs are going to be nice too actually.
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But there’s only one qualifier: is dev better than aug?
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I did and I see the connection you were trying to make. Your fatal flaw here is that Holy Pally and MW Monk have MELEE ABILITIES. EVOKERS DON’T. This glaring difference is why your opinions are nothing more than a string troll of replies.
As Valyndos said, being mid-range doesn’t benefit us or the game in anyway lol. It’s not cool, it’s not beneficial, it’s just a negative with a name and somehow you think that makes it okay?
Yeah I mean that’s obviously a rhetorical question lol.
Nonetheless, it’ll be nice to be able to break it out in lower keys/heroic/mythic farm and not feel completely meh.
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Then why do all casters/ranged, including Holy Pallys and MW Monks w/ their ranged abilities, have a baseline range of 40 yards lol? How is sharing a BASELINE RANGE of 40 yards not parity?
Definition - the state or condition of being equal, especially regarding status or pay.
“parity of incomes between rural workers and those in industrial occupations”.
O look, all ranged/casters have an equal baseline range of 40 yards for their ranged abilities lol.
Nope, any other ranged can move to mid-range and then hop back out when they need to. Evokers don’t get that option lol.
They would be handled the same way they have been for the past 9 expansions lol. Any ranged/caster would move closer as needed and then move out!
How the hell did this thought escape your brain? LOL
Hmmm, sounds like you’re the one who’s just spewing nonsense. And don’t even bring up mobility. We’ve already beat that horse to death and then some.
How yall havent managed to block this Faux poster is beyond me. I came to say I was considering making an alt Devoker but the range really is un fun, and this guys contrived BS made me block him already both ingame and on forums. I dont tolerate people like that and yall shouldnt either. Blizzard certainly isnt listening to that clown.
Dont worry he will die alone and miserable if he keeps it up.
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Another who can’t deal with different opinions.
lowkey kind of crazy the kind of vile things that have been said in this thread which have been unactioned since they weren’t reported
I got silenced a couple times. My posts since then lack the same kind of venom I was sharing with our “friends” above.
I’ve also been religiously flagging Guyhugeman and Faux as trolls too.
Another person who can’t deal with facts, that factually, objectively trump lowly opinions.
25 yard range is less fun than 40 is more of an opinion than a fact.
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I think everyone here knows that 40 yards = stronger than 25 or 30.
Yeah make them all the same so the forums can be filled with homogenized classes threads again.
Hey look, another person who doesn’t post on their Evoker, let alone a max level toon =D