Evoker Tank - Fortification

So, the defense is to wait until 11.0. so other classes in the game can be added to what a Drakthyr can be. I want and expect a new tanking spec. One that will use the dragon aspect tool kit. I am not here to argue for a Warrior’s current Protection spec or class. The chance for this unique addition with some honestly fun game play dies once DF and Dracthyr Evokers release like this.

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They were designed as super soldiers…

The wing that joins the Alliance is supposed to be a defensive force.

Having tanks makes a lot of sense from their creation…

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This particular argument doesn’t hold water for me. A solider stationed at a defensive position isn’t necessarily defensive himself. If you’re stationed to defend a wall, it’s the wall’s job to “tank” the brunt of enemy action, not you.

Honestly, I would view them as the ultimate compliment to the black dragonflight itself. The dragons themselves are the “tanks,” whereas the Dracthyr are the precise, tactical strikes and support units. But that role is just speculation, same as the yours, so it’s neither here nor there. :smiley:

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That is the big point.
Yes dragons are inheritable Tanky as Gryffindor said here

But in the end Dracthyr/Evoker are not these kind of dragons we went up against over the years.
They are not big and bulky meat shields.
They are slender and agil caster bodies.

I know this is very hard to understand but by that logic gnomes cant tank

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By any sort of logic, they shouldn’t. :wink:

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The idea that a force of super soldiers has no way to deal with damage beyond healing is kinda off.

The fact they have a defense force suggests they’d on their own be able to provide some defense especially in the context of wow. Tank spec fits just fine with them.

The only reason they’re not tanks is cause Blizzard didn’t give them that role and develop it. Not because of their size or ability.

Gnomes can be tanks.

I think you’re being much too literal. If you have soldiers defending an outpost, you don’t layer them in 5 suits of armour and take away their swords.

I know I sound like a broken record, but I think that playable Drakonids are the solution here. They would be the realization of the draconic tank fantasy people are after. Contorting Dracthyr into that creative space just damages the core Dracthyr fantasy, as detailed during the roundtable, and undercuts the opportunity for an addition that would actually be more successful in filling that void.

I almost can guarantee you that, if Evokers were to get a tank role, the whining about how they need to play as “noodley geckos” or whatever else would be much louder than those asking for it in the first place. Why not make everyone (or near everyone) happy and give us draconic tanks with actual bulk and a monstrous presence?

Which was a deliberate decision that led to them being conceived and developed into as they are now. It’s a foundational choice.

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I thought Josh Allen went rogue for a moment

Of course you don’t but you do have soldiers wearing armor and with swords.

Its just a type of class setup in the context of wow. These Dracthyr are soldiers, super soldiers. They should be able to fit the role of a tank easily.

Its also notable that Dracthyr feel like they’re missing one of the paths players wanted in the first place for a dragon-draconoid concept.

It doesn’t really matter how their bodies look, which honestly only looks weak if you’re trying to pretend they are. They’re just as strong as any other race out there by body design.

Folk who call em noodles are the same people who just can’t take the idea of a gnome with metal arms or a fox on the horde. Its ridiculous to me.

I’m all for it but realistically I also realize that its not going to happen. They had the opportunity here and they’re not going that route. By all means keep requesting that though, I think you should, I just doubt it will come to fruition.

And even if they DID add the Draconoids I’ll be honest, I’d still be trying to get em to add a tank spec to Evoker. It fits far better than it doesn’t.

Already touched on this above, but folk who think they’re “noodley” I think are being ridiculous. They’re digging for something to be mad about.

Still the easy answer there… Just add another bulkier body to them. They’ve already got 4 or so.

And I think that should be reversed. Its the reason these debates are even around. Any sensible person sitting there choosing to add a dragon based race to wow should have known there would be people who wanted the Draconoid concept or just the burly strong dragon concept. A tank spec would have fulfilled that for many.

And really between the flights powers being used its not like the power core isn’t there that would easily fill a tank role.

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Good, let them tank with spells then.

I welcome a big change to the classic idea that a tank must be melee spec.

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Tanks will always be in melee?
It doesn’t matter if you attack with a sword or by spells. It will always be a melee spec
tanks take the attacks of the enemies and they are close to the tank.

They literally took Dark Apotheosis away from Warlocks because they told us they don’t want tanks to be casting spells or tanking in cloth.

This would show hypocrisy lol.

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They would be tanking in mail armor and with their dragon scales. Blizzard said many years ago they don’t want tanks casting, now we are saying there exists a fantasy for that to be true and also work. Blizzard have taken stances before that were then changed because the player base didn’t agree. Or are you saying you can’t cast their empowered spells to help them in the tanking role? I agree that a priest or mage tank doesn’t make that much sense but a dracthyr evoker does. (arcane battle mage kinda does)

A tank in mele doesn’t necessarily mean a tank using mele abilities, again said this a few times to you now. You can CAST ranged based abilities IN mele WITHOUT being a mele class. And honestly all that doesn’t even matter, I don’t care if it’s considered a mele caster tank or a tank as long as dracthyr evoker gets to tank

Blizz hypocrisy nooooo!

But seriously yeah for what ever design reason they want tanks as front line melee weapon users.

If Blizzard had gave them this type of body option, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Looks like a melee weapon using Drakthyr to me.

https://imgur.com/a/UW7gjFP
wont say no to bulkier but still looks tanky af :smiley:

With evoker not having a tank spec, makes it hard to want to play it since it’s missing an entirely logical fantasy.

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I would definitely love to see a proper Tank spec added at some point. The only reason I can think of that they wouldn’t, is because they’re saving it.

It WOULD make kind of a sick reward for finally resolving whatever the future of the Black Dragonflight is, that maybe Wrathion or Sabellion(sp?) teach you how to harness the true power of a Black Dragon.

Alternatively (or perhaps additionally…?), I think it’s quite possible that the NEXT Expansion could wind up introducing a new Spec for EVERY class (though perhaps not Druids). I think that would drum up a lot of excitement for existing classes, and it would make a ton of sense to hold a Tank-spec for Evokers until then, if that were indeed the case.

I mean, I wouldn’t bet money on it or anything, but I think it’s a distinct possibility.

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