Uhh yes it would since active mitigation and passive mitigation would have to be put in the core class skill set. This would mean the class needs to be rebalenced around that, meaning skills that already exist would need to be altered, removed, or redesigned.
Anything beyond melee is not capable with this game type.
That can be covered again by letting them be other tank classes…
Like monks and warriors…
and that would make for a great fantasy - that the evoker hybrid of all dragons aspects, being the ultimate caster, can perform all the roles…as a caster. It introduces a new concept that fits and is wanted.
So I touched on this earlier in more detail, there are talent trees with various iterations already made that can be implemented. The whole class does not need a rework, keep all the baseline abilities and alter a 1 or two while in tank spec. everything else is from talent tree.
You can cast in mele ( further enhanced through talents) then you can tank in mele
eventually cool, here we are discussing why evokers should get a third spec and why that spec should be tank.
Not eventually, it needs to be done NOW.
Only a fool would think this.
And you touched it up very poorly earlier as well.
Only 2 spells in the game you can because they specifically said in the spell description that mitigation is still in effect. Try casting holy light as a paladin in melee and you’ll notice you can’t do any mitigation during the cast, and suffer spell push-back as well.
Then your not a ranged tank, which defeats that purpose you propose. On top of that tanking is not a spell slingers fantasy, sorry to break that to you.
Cool and I’m discussing on why they shouldn’t get a tank spec.
ugh one of these people lol. You had mentioned dev time, do you honestly think adding in spell animations for different classes would be less work than adding 3 spells to a new role? lol
various fools have come up with more ways of making it work, i named just a few (disintegrate enhancements to incorporate active mitigation further enhanced through talents)
Cool, add two more to make the class/fantasy/role work. We wouldn’t be casting holy light, wed be using azure strike, living flame, fire breath, deep breath, disintegrate along side with 2-3 new abilities from talents and majorly enhanced through talents to assist casting and tanking
caster tank doesnt = ranged tank but does have range capability, said it a hundred times now. Evoker caster tank is very much an awesome fantasy, sucks you dont like it…dont play it.
The lore Blizz just made up? They could have pretty easily included reasoning for other classes. Maybe something like…
Only the best of the best Drakthyr are trained to be evokers. The rest use their talents to join the fight with their claws or other schools of magic.
yes that would work, so would the lore they just make up for evokers learning to tank with their magic
We also have no precedent of adding a race that is limited in it’s Roles. No Precedent for a 25 yd caster.
I don’t think people realize just how unlikely “down the line” is with Blizzard. Like we still have core races without heritage armor which should have been long done for the original races. Instead we got allied Race ones. We were told we were getting white and grey Tmogability from what I’ve seen on the beta forums not happening in 10.0. We were supposed to get more Character Customazations for SL, those never happened.
Blizzard is horrible about circling back to things, especially without a visible road map.
Tank and caster… I’ll pass, I don’t like the idea in the least.
Cool dont play it, the other specs are still there. No one took anything away from you and other players get what they want
I won’t play it anytime soon anyway… neither will you, because this is all purely want and opinion. Your passive aggressive attitude isn’t gonna make anyone hope you get your way or find backers/supporters… I hope they never add another tank now.
the big worry is the missed opportunity, evoker should definitely get a 3rd spec and I would advocate that it be able to fulfill all roles. Now is the time to ask for that
only towards attempts of silencing the idea with the only counter being “just cuz i dont want it” where many others do want it…Its not just my idea…its shared amongst the player base. Sounds like you don’t like it so therefore it shouldn’t be in the game but then dont like valid supporting arguments against what you think.
This is how I know you lack a basic education, saying, “I’ll pass and think its a bad idea.” isn’t shutting down your idea at all… it’s a personal opinion… now if I were to say, “this is a bad idea and blizzard needs to keep evokers caster” then you’d have a case. Now I do kinda want this idea to disappear because of people like yourself.
So you want to talk about my education, and shut down the idea because of how you feel, but also not expect a “hostile” retort? im sticking to the discussion at hand and full blasting those who want to dish it, cant take it? Staying on subject, sorry “its a bad idea” doesn’t cut it as a valid argument for why evokers shouldn’t have a third spec and why that third spec shouldn’t be tank. Thank you please try again later.
Awww… you’ll get there one day little buddy.
thanks! ill even be happy for you enjoying a tanking evoker
Evoker as it is now, isn’t what I was hoping for when I found out they would be adding a playable dragon race to the game. How many dragons have we gone up against? How tough have they all been during their time of relevance? Having our first playable Dragon race not being able to be this tough TANK boggles my mind. It is supposed to be a mix of all the dragons. I am sure that would have been covered.
Mid ranged Healer/DPS… No thankyou I will pass and watch.
rrrrawr! keeping the baseline and class toolkit as is how would you like to see the tanking tree integrated into the class?
Race =/= Class.
The Dracthyr as a race should definitely be opened to other classes.
Evoker as the class was created to be a caster/healer.
Well both in conjunction basically.
But opening the Race to other classes will get you your Dragon Tank
It was created to mix the powers of all the dragon specs into a super soldier, as hybrid as it gets. It can still be a tank and you can get your other classes…eventually