So if you don’t 1shot immediately then you’re just screwed? Great class design.
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Well i pretty much finished gearing mine now 
You need to take all hover talents and use it to kite+heal. If you’re just dying after failing to 1 shot someone you aren’t using your tools to kite correctly.
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Yea I was like a frog in a blender when I ate the warriors bladestorm. They are kinda squishy. But they have some powerful stuff. Doing a few BGs with lots of Evokers I have come to see that many, if not most of them simply have no clue how to play the class at all. I see so many of them with their abilities getting launched and it hits empty ground and the players didnt even move out of the way… they just missed.
Right in theory. Wrong in practice. Plenty of specs/comps in the game that just screw you.
The more I play Devestation and the better I get at it, the more I realize how absolutely terrible it is in both performance and design. Hopefully the HP buff and 5 more talent points helps, but if not then it’s gonna need some major changes.
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Most people are only going the 1 shot build though, there is a super strong sustained build that allows you to gather far more utility then having a all-in talent set. Maybe you should try that?
I assume you’re referring to the Disintegrate build?
Yea its basically a pve build but you take a heap of utility in the class tree that allows you unhindered movement with hover. basically every 24 seconds you can kite pretty much anything while doing insane damage.
Yeah no I already use that build. The class as a whole is still terrible.
I mean you play like an arcane mage in legion, you can play stuff like ww/dev and just straight murder people while kiting double melee the entire time.
Good luck kiting a melee with a root.
Are you saying that the class sucks because of feral druids? Is your gripe about evoker that you can’t beat the strongest spec in the game, because it has 1 ability which requires a heap of combo points to make instant?
No. I’m saying that your statement about easily being able to kite melee using hover is nonsense when all a warrior has to do is charge at us once to cancel that hover. The spec sucks for other reasons.
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Charge doesnt break hover even with warbringer. If you get charged you have 2 baseline abilities that allow you to create distance again. You also have a bunch of cds to survive stuns while doing insane sustained damage with muliple easy to use ccs for enemies including a non lining death grip and non lining life grip.
Starting to run into some geared Dragons it’s making a difference for sure
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You should play monk
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It definitely does unless they changed that very recently. Played 200 shuffles this week and every single warrior charge cancelled the hover aura.
And then they chase you. What’s your point?
Surviving stuns was never the problem and I don’t think anyone here said it was.
lol no.
Again, that’s not the issue. I don’t think anyone said it was, either. Are you just listing the features of the class?
It does not break hover atm even with warbringer, on the beta or the live game.
Do you understand how kiting works? If your dying from things because they hit you melee range you die less if you run away.
45k sustained dps on beta while kiting ret/war is about the same as aff locks atm. On retail I had on doing 13k each round running dis build and still had insanely huge fire breaths. He could kite very well due to unhindered hover and the ability to cast while moving.
I jsut assumed this is what you were talking about because if they arnt stunned they have a huge amount abilities to create distance and heal. Still not 100% sure what your problem with evoker is you keep just saying things don’t work.
It does. I have dozens of games/duels where it was cancelled after being charged. But the class is a buggy mess right now so maybe it was something else somehow?
Again, what’s your point? What does that have to do with anything I just said? If you’re trying to turn my argument from “there’s a lot of things wrong with the class” to “the class sucks because I can’t stand still and melee people” then go ahead, I guess
I can’t speak for beta. But on live, it seems like he was facing idiots if they let him do that. At 2100+ solo shuffle, Rets are easily capable of doing 100k in a global on you from ranged, and warriors should constantly be charging, spearing, and stunning you so that kiting is much more of an intensive process then you’re making it out to be.
And that’s not even the main issue I have with evokers, even though that’s what you seem to be so focused on.
How buggy they are. How shallow the spec is. How bad the sustained is vs how OP the burst is. The infinite mana and insane self-healing via spamming living flame. The 25 yard range. The clunkiness of all the targeted aoe abilities. The length of charging empowered abilities. The lack of baseline utility besides sleepwalk. The fact that the entire class seems to be tuned around level 70 (which was obviously the right choice, but doesn’t make it any less annoying to play right now). The fact that it has literally 0 answers to certain matchups/abilities like mindgames/silence/rogue resets. And on and on.
I saw a 93k fire breath earlier