Worst part is they troll discord and the beta forums frequently haha. That is pretty low.
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Excuse me?
The listed bugs are just literally bugs.
Crackshot doesn’t let you use between the eyes for some reason randomly.
Killing spree will disconnect you or drop you through land masses.
You aren’t playing outlaw if you don’t know these bugs actually exist
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its not really trolling, but again what ever floats yall boat
taking stealth out of rogue is just bonkers
Agreed.
It takes some know how to avoid Grapple Hook from going on CD without moving too.
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If it’s not trolling, then it’s illiteracy. Literally nobody wants to take stealth out of rogue, just give us a viable alternative to mid-combat stealth
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Mid-combat stealth was the stupidest idea to ever leave the actual “Subtlety” “shadow magic” type spec. Actual stealth, as in, sneaking up on an unaware opponent, requires various factors and to just make that a button to use in the middle of combat is what’s “bonkers.”
Assassination can get away with it because sure, smoke-bomb and ninja out. Subtlety is where vanish/shadow dancing naturally fits. Outlaw is a pirate or at best a highwayman… they could get the drop on you to start combat, sure, but they’re not the type to vanish from view and come back at you with perfect setup.
The devs are afraid to make Outlaw a really fun swashbuckler spec so they rely on crutches like vanish-dancing. Let it go. People only vanish-dance because it allows them access to a powerful ability or buff mid-combat, whatever’s being associated with stealth, from-stealth, shortly-after-stealth… so just shift that buff and damage around to abilities that are fun to use while Outlaw is going toe-to-toe with someone.
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I want to shout this post from the heavens directly into the brain of whoever is in charge of Rogue design
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You see Combat was focused on using Sinister Strike to advance insight so the longer you stayed out of stealth the more damage you built up and ramped up.
Then Outlaw comes along and the ramp up is for BTE using Saber Slashes and Cannon Ball barrages with Run Throughs weaved in.
Currently Outlaw has little ramp up time outside of stealth but the problem is that most of the ramp up time happens during a stealth window when the spec isn’t built for it like Sub is capable of doing.
Worse, is that Outlaw can’t really compete anymore with sustain damage and burst outside of stealth windows that much like it used to be.
AR is just an energy cool down now and the spec has no burst outside of Crackshot windows which is RNG itself.
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I will echo all of this feedback and then some
hereswith is literally saying to removeit completely from outlaw, your one of the few who is saying “give more viable builds” the rest are trying to put words in my mouth or insult cause they cant make a proper argument
theres a stark difference
like the hunter under you, wanting to remove stealth from outlaw in general.
its very telling that your praising this slop while at the same veing going “we’re just asking for other viable builds” its very telling
this was years ago and they brought it back for shadowlands, guess what in the short time it was meta in shadowlands, alot of people disliked it
thats a cope, and probably hints to misplay than anything
the spec never had burst other than maybe greed empowered dreadblades back in legion. combat has always been a consistency damage spec. if you found “burst windows” as combat or outlaw then you were 100% misplaying in a HUGE way
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Never said that.
Irony.
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ya cause calling outlaw “hill billy sub” and everyone that has a remotely different opinion from you some kind of name or insult tooooooooooooooooooooooooooootally means "i want different viable builds 
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again, like how your telling everyone that likes current outlaw to play sub. how about you play warrior and stop trying to make rogue until warrior 2 but leather
No, I’m telling you to play Sub.
Because it is.
No I didn’t.
How about you actually post on your rogue?
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theres literally entire rows of you insulting and belittling people for liking current outlaw. people like you are the reason why no one takes these spaces seriously. theres no room for discussion its just instant attack and then playing the victim when people attack back or give you the same energy in multiple threads
except its not, vanish and outlaw had a long tied history and if YOU didnt use it then that was YOUR problem.
nah, didnt you call me bones the second? posting my rogue is just gonna make you more vile to other better rogue players. whats the point of me posting on my rogue when the highest content you did is ****ing lfr and thats the first 2 bosses of each in dragonflight
You talking into a mirror?
Except it’s still Hill Billy Subtlety.
It’s more of an insult to Bonez, but I mean, you could dispel the rumor.
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thats what i ment, your very quick to insult everyone and even better rogue players. absolute insanity to insult one of the better outlaw players in the game cause he has a different opinion from you.
then outlaw has been hill billy sub for years. idk what outlaw youve been playing but clearly you didnt care, so why start caring now and making it everyones problem
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There isn’t anyone in charge of Rogue design that is the problem.
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I mean, if you could post on your Rogue that would be true.
No it hasn’t.
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*you’re
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